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elisi ([personal profile] elisi) wrote2005-10-26 11:04 am
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They soared, all of them!



First and foremost I just loved it. I can't really discuss it objectively, because when I love something, I tend to look on everything favourably. It's the same with Buffy - there is very, very little that I actually dislike. I can even find good things in AYW! But since Darcy is more critical (very much so - he's something of a perfectionist when it comes to these things. But then he does want to make films himself, so that's the way he looks at stuff)I'll first put in a bit of critique via him (since I mostly agree with it):

He thought the second half better than the first, since the pace was faster. And he was disappointed that Book didn't get more screentime, since it was hard to care about his death just from what we saw. The soundtrack he found uninspired (but then he's a musician and has very high standards). (Actually I came out of the cinema with the tune for the Scotland advert in my head. And they didn't even show it! But that's strong associations for you!) What else... he was a bit disappointed that it wasn't as funny as Firefly. Overall though he really liked it. Oh - and when I mentioned [livejournal.com profile] sdwolfpup's theory that Book used to be an Operative, he looked at me like I was an idiot and said "Well - duh!! That's not a theory, it's fact!"

But onto my thoughts:

I loved the plot! It all made wonderful sense and I'm so glad we found out where the Reavers came from. Not to mention the reason why the Alliance wanted River back. And Joss really, really likes strong little women, doesn't he? Although why does he love River's feet so much? Does anyone know?

The Operative was excellent! Very twisted, but with his own warped sense of honour. Will come back to him later.

Wash! *cries* He killed Wash! I'll never look at leaves the same way again. But it was done very well - it all happened so fast, that just like Zoe I didn't have time to grieve until later. And Zoe reminded me very much of Willow actually ("I owe you PAIN!"). She really set out to get herself killed, avenging Wash's death. (And yes, there was a moment when I thought that they were all going to die!)
The moment when Wash's death really hit was actually at the very end, when Mal and River were piloting and the camera moved back to show the little dinosaurs. I also found it a wonderful way to bookend the whole thing - tying it in with the start of Firefly. Yet another shout-out. *sniffle*

What I found most interesting about the whole thing, though, was the centrality of belief. The Operative is especially dangerous because he believes in his cause. And the reason Mal is so disconnected is that he lost what he believed in. Only by the end of the film he has found that purpose again. It's even mentioned it the conversation between Book and Mal - the importance of belief. And Book says that he doesn't just mean it in a religious way.
I loved that Mal didn't kill The Operative, but instead did something much more devastating - he took away his reason to fight. As he (The Operative) said at the end, there was nothing left. (Very Angelus of Mal actually). I just think this is all very interesting, coming from an atheist.

I think that's all for now. I hope I didn't muddle things up too much. (I'm writing with a baby in my arm, so I've tried to be as brief as possible.


Oh and does anyone have any really good reviews/analysises(?)/posts they could link me to?

[identity profile] zimshan.livejournal.com 2005-10-26 05:22 pm (UTC)(link)
WASH!!! It's been almost a month since I saw this movie, twice in two days, and I think I'm still broken. I can't think of any movie I've ever seen that I've loved so much. So glad I avoided any and all spoilers!

But yea, I'm at the same point. I can't really view the movie objectively. And really? I don't know if I want to. I'm too happily in love to break it now.

Right on with your Operative thoughts. Joss did a fanastic job at scripting that character. The conflicting grayness abounds. Just a great portrayal for a movie's supposed villain.

And yup, I think it's official. Almost everyone said they thought they were all going to die after Wash. So anyone who says Wash's death was gratitutious is nuts! Joss got exactly the effect he wanted...

I just think this is all very interesting, coming from an atheist.

Yea, I know. I had the same thought watching it. Very interesting indeed...

And the dinos! WASH!! I loved seeing the dinos in the beginning, but the end there, making sure they were in that last scene, alittle piece of Wash was still there in on that bridge. And yup, that warranted bunches of tears.

I've got some great reviews and analysis stuff I've found but I gotta run. I'll link them for you later....

[identity profile] zimshan.livejournal.com 2005-10-27 04:51 am (UTC)(link)
I'm back. Here's just the stuff that I bookmarked along the way. Hope you enjoy!

Nilly's Serenity Review I'm sure is fantastic. I haven't gotten a chance to read yet, but she did excellent reviews for all the FF eps and I'm sure this one is no different.

Media Reviews:
Orson Scott Card wrote a review that just makes me grin like an idiot everytime I read it.

A Film Review by Peter Suderman

Since I Found Serenity

LJ Reviews/Analyses:

Serenity and Religion

A Big Damn Essay

Whedon and the Garden of Good and Evil

Small Thoughts