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Fandom is Captain Jack Harkness. (Note the stripes.)

Joss is Captain John Hart. (Note the sarcasm.)

From Jack's blog:

Captain John Hart came through the Rift, still as sociopathic as ever. And tried to kill us all. But come on, check out those cheekbones.


Personally, then I lost the last, tiny little shred of belief or interest in comic!Buffy three years ago, with the bank robbing reveal. Srsly, I am nodding along to every word I wrote back then. Which makes me sad, because there was so much more down to come... So yeah, I'm immune to the cheekbones. To those of you who think the cheekbones are worth it - and damn, they are alluring, I've been there - I sincerely hope that he won't stab you in the back (again).

ETA: Finally read #40. Faith's great. Kennedy is AWESOME! Buffy... This is how Buffy comes across to me:

Cordelia: People who think their problems are so huge craze me. Like this time I sort of ran over this girl on her bike. It was the most traumatizing event of *my* life, and she's trying to make it about *her* leg! Like *my* pain meant nothing.

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Date: 20 January 2011 12:55 pm (UTC)
owlboy: (Default)
From: [personal profile] owlboy
I lost faith in Joss w/ Dollhouse.

Grrrr. Dollhouse.

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Date: 20 January 2011 01:14 pm (UTC)
owlboy: (River >:[)
From: [personal profile] owlboy
Squicky is...an understatement. It's horrible.
I was always puzzled by Joss's insistence that he is pro-feminism. Judging by the way he writes women? He really isn't. They're all prostitutes, rape victims, or get punished for having sex.
Sometimes all three.
:(
He could take a lesson or two from Moffat.

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Date: 20 January 2011 01:31 pm (UTC)
owlboy: (firefly River I can kill you)
From: [personal profile] owlboy
What's fridged?

I adore Firefly, but yeah...Inara is also a walking madonna/whore complex, and Kaylee has her issues too...

Hmmm. I had issues with the way Rusty wrote women in DW. It's different in Torchwood?

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Date: 20 January 2011 01:47 pm (UTC)
owlboy: (rory doctor grin)
From: [personal profile] owlboy
haha i was just reading that wondering if it was what you meant.

Gah. I refuse to watch CoE :( it sounds entirely too depressing.

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Date: 21 January 2011 12:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kerkevik.livejournal.com
I love that word!

That's going straight into my lexicon, so it is :-)

Exhibit A - Well, this is the pic that I first fell in love with; of Jenna Stannis my favourite character on Blake's 7;
also the most wasted http://freakyalternateuniverse.angelfire.com/jenna_new.jpg

Exhibit B - http://freakyalternateuniverse.angelfire.com/cordy3.jpg

Beware Your Inner Bitch!

Still under Willow & Tara's spell,
Ray.

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Date: 20 January 2011 03:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] she-and-i-were.livejournal.com
I have to butt in and agree that the Dw/Tw really shows women as flawed/awesome and real. I think Lost was epicsause for doing that too.

Dollhouse:
Image (http://img842.imageshack.us/i/34gvjus.gif/)
couldn't find the dw one i wan't so bats will do

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Date: 20 January 2011 02:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paratti.livejournal.com
Buffy did too. Remember the Buffy skipping in a low cut top and a well-stuffed Wonderbra back in the day. The patrolling in micro-skirts and heels. Faith's entire wardrobe.
Not to mention the whole Sex=Death/Disaster and must be Punished by the author that underlies the whole thing.

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Date: 20 January 2011 02:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paratti.livejournal.com
But she never stays grown-up. She always reverts:(

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Date: 20 January 2011 01:56 pm (UTC)
ext_423802: (beast ♔ there's a brain in my soup)
From: [identity profile] the-redjay.livejournal.com
*hug* Only Joss-verse I know is Firefly and Astonishing X-Men which both did it for me, so I'm sorry to hear you're having issues.

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Date: 20 January 2011 02:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adoxerella.livejournal.com
I am so glad I fled right after the first Faith arc when I got so disgusted by the blatant retcon that I couldn't stand any more. (I only bought two more comics after that, and one was because Jeff Loeb, who is one of my favorite comic writers wrote it.) It's nice to know I managed to get out before I could get really disillusioned.

I should have worked harder to get you to come over to the dark side with me and watch/read Fullmetal Alchemist. Arakawa could teach Joss volumes about how to create strong female characters. Plus *points to icon* you've got characters like Roy if you need the cheek-bones factor (except there are actually layers behind the pretty face). *forces self to stop gushing*

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Date: 20 January 2011 02:54 pm (UTC)
owlboy: (Default)
From: [personal profile] owlboy
FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST.
ROY MUSTANG. <33333

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Date: 20 January 2011 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adoxerella.livejournal.com
Shhhh! You're supposed to let her get hooked in first before you tell her he's useless in the rain.

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Date: 21 January 2011 04:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adoxerella.livejournal.com
I might yet get there. Never say never.
*cough*read it from right to left, or you could just watch the traumatic clip *cough*

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Date: 20 January 2011 02:25 pm (UTC)

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Date: 20 January 2011 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beer-good-foamy.livejournal.com
Cordelia quote of win.

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Date: 20 January 2011 03:37 pm (UTC)
rahirah: (Default)
From: [personal profile] rahirah
Yeah. :/

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Date: 20 January 2011 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hello-spikey.livejournal.com
ha ha ha.
word.

I'm less bitter because I was never really a member of the church of Joss. I came to this stuff late and saw it as, "Wow, this is deeply flawed and this guy can't resolve a plot worth spit, but I love the snappy dialog and the whole seems charming!"

*sigh*
I want my charming back! Okay, maybe I was a member...

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Date: 20 January 2011 04:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rebcake.livejournal.com
Join me in the new, shiny, Church of Joss, Reformed. We get to pick the bits we like!

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Date: 20 January 2011 04:44 pm (UTC)
kathyh: (Kathyh Giles ook)
From: [personal profile] kathyh
So yeah, I'm immune to the cheekbones. To those of you who think the cheekbones are worth it - and damn, they are alluring, I've been there - I sincerely hope that he won't stab you in the back (again).

My feelings exactly. The comics are fanfic (and not even really by Joss) and it was actually "Dollhouse" that killed the Joss love for me, but it has gone and I'm a little sad about that. Doesn't mean I don't still love the characters from the TV show (and fanfic) which is where Buffy still exists for me, but I would be deeply cautious about committing to another Joss show again.

Great Cordelia quote (and look what Joss did to her)!

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