Buffy s8 #36. (The one where I couldn't keep a straight face.)

[elisi]

You know, Doctor Who has the perfect quote for everything. Although I'm not sure I'm going to do much poking... More pointing and laughing.



Right. Well. So I had mentally prepared myself for the worst, and then the story was... *flails* No seriously, just look at this:





"You gave me superpowers and tantric sex in space and ~PERFECTION~ and then you nobly gave it all up for me (*tear*) - let's move in together in my lovely castle and live happily ever after!"

I don't even know where to begin. "Bestest day of her life"??? REALLY? I mean, it's somewhere beyond ridiculous and way, way out there in the wild yonder where the maps say 'Here be dragons'. Oh and this made me laugh:



And then the whole 'You can't blame them for being a little pissed off' and Angel's noble 'I don't'...

Is that it? 'Oh, you naughty, naughty Angel, killing people and destroying the world! Bad boy, go stand in the corner. And you'll get no dessert!'

Actually Angel's characterisation was the only thing that got me actually cross what with 'I don't trust him' re. Spike, which was just so blatantly *wrong* on all levels that I wanted to kick something. But clearly Angel's been turned into a 12 year old permanently, so whatever. It's not like any other part of his personality makes sense anymore. Ditto Buffy. I'd like to think that this is all the glow, and that the rampant OOCness indicates the fact that they're not themselves, but considering the rest of s8 (remember Dracula and Xander being BFFs? That was played completely straight!) I'm not jumping to any conclusions.

And then Spike. Oh Spike. Spike who obviously went away somewhere, for some reason, and returned with a steampunk ship and a bug crew who call him 'Your Majesty' (this never got old!). And then proceeded to be smart and resourceful and dig out all the facts (unlike Angel who just wandered around with some kind of higher power talking at him and following blindly), so he'd know what to do to stop it all. And I'm sorry, but competence is my biggest kink of all, so I've got no complaints. Plus, this Spike strikes me as very close to Brian Lynch's Spike, which is not a bad thing. Oh and did I mention? Bugs that call him 'Your Majesty'!!!! *dies laughing again* Spike is ALWAYS best when he has friends/minions. (Well he's best when he's a Fool For Love, but Joss will never ever go there, so I'm just pleased to have competent!Spike around - esp when contrasted with brainwashed!moron!Angel and clueless!comic!Buffy.)

Also, this whole thing about universes/realities being sentient is just fabulous crack. I'm really looking forward to seeing Twilight throwing a tantrum!

Oh, and then they have to go find THE SEED OF WONDER! Which is all RED and GLOWY and guarded by The Master who has been dead dead since the start of S2. What next? Daleks? Sorry, wrong show. Um... Illyria? Oh wait, AtS never happened. Oh I know - Glory! And maybe also the Mayor. BigSnake!Mayor, obviously, since THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY LIKE!

And in conclusion another gif...



(Here it is on youtube with music, in case you're not familiar.)


Oh and you should also read this post by rahirah (there's food metaphors!) and shipperx's Vid Post Remedy for Season 8. ETA: Also THIS POST by knifeedgefic about The Trouble with Comic Book Continuations.

ETA: RyallTime has posted a preview of Lynch and Urru's Spike comic. It is so gorgeous (in every way) that it HURTS! *grabby hands* (That last page? THAT is what comics can do!)

Comments

[2maggie2.livejournal.com]

I think you and I have always been on the same page re: Spike staying away in season 5? Cause one awesome thing about #36 is that we've got a Spike who's his own man.

And while I'm not going to forecast Spuffy in season 9 (cause I really think Bander is the end game, if there is an end game), the current set-up would be a *great* place for them to start.

[angearia.livejournal.com]

I just don't see how Xander can be the endgame after Dawn. Personally, Dawn/Xander makes me think that Joss was putting Bander to bed here also. (But hey, he did Xander/Willow in Season 3 so who knows?)

If our theory holds that Buffy is being forced to examine her issues and illusions about Angel, then I do wonder what will happen with Spike and her in the end.

[2maggie2.livejournal.com]

I have to have a bit of reserve on all the hopefulness! But my theory now gives Bander a role in the drama. I didn't have that before, which is why I assumed it was end game. Of course I would love for it to be Spuffy in the end. And Spike is supposed to be around a lot in season 9...

[elisi]

I think you and I have always been on the same page re: Spike staying away in season 5?
You mean AtS S5? Oh no. I LOVE LOVE LOVE Spike in AtS S5, it is one of my favourite things in the whole world and made me ship Spike/Angel to a degree that rivals Spike/Buffy. :)

That said, I'm very happy that he's his own man, esp since Angel's lost his marbles.

[2maggie2.livejournal.com]

I thought it was great that Spike stayed in LA. Loved that he stayed there. You too, no?

[elisi]

Yes, very much so!

ETA: Just realised that you meant 'staying away from Buffy' in S5. Sorry, it's been a long day. And yes. I even wrote a ranty post about it once. Can hunt it down if you like.

ETA2: Actually, I also wrote fic, trying to work out where Spike's head was at.

IT WOULD ALSO REALLY HELP IF I COULD ACTUALLY TYPE!

[angearia.livejournal.com]

I love that he's become his own man, I really do. I just wish he could've said "Buffy, I wanted to let you know I'm back and I've found my own mission. I hope you're well and safe."

That's how I show I love people--I keep them informed on the big moments in my life... like coming back from the dead! :D

But it's not like Buffy didn't act all that conscientiously either--they're both a bit flawed, both a bit selfish.

The thing with Spike is that he's given so much for so long, it's not a bad thing for him to be selfish. I just think he could've been selfish (looking out for himself) and kind at the same time. And the only reason he didn't contact Buffy was because of ego and fear (that he wasn't important to her).

[liliaeth]

Well keep in mind that the last time Spike opened his heart to her, she said it mattered and then went right on stamping on it, by kissing Angel almost right after.

He's got a right to try to protect himself from further pain.

[angearia.livejournal.com]

He does, but to me, when I love someone, my pain is less important than their own. So what of his love for Buffy? I think it's because he think his being back or not just doesn't matter--so he probably thinks he's not hurting her. But I think he's wrong, she was hurt, and that's why it's all tragic.

Nobody's really in the wrong. Nobody's really in the right. It's a tragedy of errors.