Willow isn't scared (except for one tiny moment). I thought she was scared until Buffy showed up but I find the idea of her dying gradually piece by piece more emotionally involving than gore.
Now imagine Cordy in Asylum Cordy doesn't have a rep with demons. Now imagine Buffy in Asylum or any of the Slayers for that matter. I think I just have a different impression of Spike's back story - the idea of getting his kicks by killing other demons seemed quite novel to him in Doomed. I'd thought he gained his legendary warrior status by a combination of killing Slayers and more massacre than thou.
Here we just see Spike, and his *idea* of Angel. Yes and it's his *idea* of Angel that differs from my idea of his idea of Angel.
What I meant was that Angel has a need to be the one saving the day and calling the shots. I agree with that my problem is with Spike thinking of Angel as the the big dumb noble hero type incapable of a strategic retreat or not rushing in in the first place. He has seen him that way in the past (the In the Dark monologue) but from a souled perspective seems to think Angel and Angelus have a lot more in common. It's a problem maybe with the voice-over technique, it gives a lot less room for varying interpretations of the character and that's an issue when you don't 100% agree with the author's take.
The fight would have been pretty identical if she'd never been mentioned - it's not about her, it's about *them*. I think bringing Buffy into it does make a big difference for Spike, he has massive insecurities about whether she loved him or not which are completely independent of anything to do with Angel. Faith on the other hand doesn't care whether Angel wants her or not, she just wants to take something away from Buffy.
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I thought she was scared until Buffy showed up but I find the idea of her dying gradually piece by piece more emotionally involving than gore.
Now imagine Cordy in Asylum
Cordy doesn't have a rep with demons. Now imagine Buffy in Asylum or any of the Slayers for that matter. I think I just have a different impression of Spike's back story - the idea of getting his kicks by killing other demons seemed quite novel to him in Doomed. I'd thought he gained his legendary warrior status by a combination of killing Slayers and more massacre than thou.
Here we just see Spike, and his *idea* of Angel.
Yes and it's his *idea* of Angel that differs from my idea of his idea of Angel.
What I meant was that Angel has a need to be the one saving the day and calling the shots.
I agree with that my problem is with Spike thinking of Angel as the the big dumb noble hero type incapable of a strategic retreat or not rushing in in the first place. He has seen him that way in the past (the In the Dark monologue) but from a souled perspective seems to think Angel and Angelus have a lot more in common. It's a problem maybe with the voice-over technique, it gives a lot less room for varying interpretations of the character and that's an issue when you don't 100% agree with the author's take.
The fight would have been pretty identical if she'd never been mentioned - it's not about her, it's about *them*.
I think bringing Buffy into it does make a big difference for Spike, he has massive insecurities about whether she loved him or not which are completely independent of anything to do with Angel. Faith on the other hand doesn't care whether Angel wants her or not, she just wants to take something away from Buffy.