Thanks for all these links. I haven't been involved in BtVS/Ats fandom since shortly after they ended their first runs. But these discussions are the ones we were having back in the day, though with much less direct information/much more speculation than is happening currently. (And at the risk of drawing attention away from Joss' abuse of women, I remember that Marsters alluded to the toxic environment on set/Joss' cruelty while Buffy was still airing. And much of Xander's arc in the later seasons seemed to be life leaking into art.) That it's taken so long to really blow up, sigh.

Whedon was attached to an ME project that will be on HBO later this year. But left it before the first season even aired, citing a time crunch. Wonder if that was because the shit was about to hit the fan.