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elisi ([personal profile] elisi) wrote2020-07-07 06:37 pm

Lockdown Update Day 112

First up... Cronk! Came across this thread a few weeks ago, and it was just delightful: And now there's been a development:

The Guardian: 'Cronk rules everything around me': long-lost beverage resurrected after 120 years
Odd ads for Dr Cronk’s Compound Sarsaparilla Beer, once wildly popular, went viral on Twitter. Now a Canadian brewer is bringing it back


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In corona news:

Coronavirus: Brazil's President Bolsonaro tests positive


Sweden Has Become the World’s Cautionary Tale
Its decision to carry on in the face of the pandemic has yielded a surge of deaths without sparing its economy from damage — a red flag as the United States and Britain move to lift lockdowns.

(Personal note: I think we're our own red flag.)

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And it's 15 years since the London bombings. I'm not sure how to feel. 15 years is a long time, but I still remember it vividly; worrying about LJ friends that I knew lived in London, messages flying back and forth if anyone had heard from so-and-so... And having lived in London for 3 years, using those tube stations on a regular basis, it made it all feel much more immediate.

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Today's art is the 7 July Memorial:

7_July_Memorial_-_Hyde_Park

Website here, if you want to know more about the design.

ETA: Completely managed to forget that this icon is a product of that attack...
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[personal profile] yourlibrarian 2020-07-07 07:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't emphasize enough how deserved Bolsonaro's case of Covid is and how much I loathe him.
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[personal profile] beer_good_foamy 2020-07-07 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
We fucked up badly in keeping Covid out of old-age homes, which have made up the vast majority of lethal cases so far. That's a fucking scandal brought on by 25 years of very deliberate dismantling of the public sector.

But at least we're not deliberately killing off the parts of the electorate who'd vote against us, unlike some regimes.
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[personal profile] beer_good_foamy 2020-07-07 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Although, unless your politicians are blaming the old-age homes, you're still doing better than us.

Not quite, but the politicians in charge of the old-age homes are blaming the government, since they know voters have no idea who's responsible. And then they keep cutting costs in the name of efficiency, in the middle of a pandemic.

The point is, not to dismiss the value of social distancing (or to dull my rage at all the people who come into the library and are shocked, SHOCKED, to find that everything isn't "normal"), but the people in care homes are the people who have no say in how and when and whether to socially distance. And they're the ones who have been dying in droves. But the idea that we should be the cautionary tale when Trump and Bolsonaro are actively encouraging people to die as soon as possible is ludicrous.

Or maybe I'm just on edge because I just got my negative antibody test and there goes my entire summer and I won't see my parents for another three months at least. Fuck this fucking year.

ETA: Apologies, didn't mean to bring my ranty pants over to your LJ. I should probably just go to bed and hope the sun rises tomorrow.
Edited 2020-07-07 21:52 (UTC)
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[personal profile] shadowkat 2020-07-08 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
Hi, popping in - just to say - good to see you are okay.

Also...ditto on all of the above.

But the idea that we should be the cautionary tale when Trump and Bolsonaro are actively encouraging people to die as soon as possible is ludicrous.

Yep. Considering Brazil and US are vying for the top places on the COVID MAP OF DOOM.

I think the virus is keeping Trump alive - because he's helping it along. As the NY State Governor stated - Trump is enabling the virus.

(Yeah, I tested negative for the anti-body as well - so I feel your pain. Although it's not exactly clear if it's proof of immunity or that it is precisely accurate. But I was kind of hoping I had a mild case of the thing in November.)
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[personal profile] schrodingers_time_lady 2020-07-09 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
15 years... geez. I remember exactly where I was when I saw that on the news. Hard to believe it's been that long.

Also, being as I'm in Canada, I wonder if we'll be able to get Cronk in Nova Scotia. Is it just me, or do those ads have a more than a little Nightvalean feel to them?
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[personal profile] ruuger 2020-07-09 11:12 am (UTC)(link)
And then they keep cutting costs in the name of efficiency, in the middle of a pandemic.

We were very lucky not to end up going your route as well, because most of our deaths at the beginning of the pandemic were also in (private) care homes.

My mother said that back in my home town, people had decided that they would keep corona out of the local care home, no matter the cost (because they knew that they couldn't trust the owners of the care home to do it). She works as a clearner at the school where the daughter of one of the nurses working at the care home goes to, and she made sure the be extra careful to disinfect everything, and the headmaster had similarly ordered that no extra people were allowed in the school building to lessen the chances of the nurse's daughter getting sick.
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[personal profile] schrodingers_time_lady 2020-07-09 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
IKR? 9/11 feel like aeons ago, but this feels recent.
It might be different for you, but I think I was just a little too young to realise the impact of 9/11 at the time, but the London Bombing I was old enough to understand that what was on the telly wasn't a movie?

Although it must be the other way around, surely. ;)
Ha ha! It depends a lot on Night Vale's wibbly wobbley timey wimey. You must tell me Miss M's thoughts, I imagine she'd have some intelligent ones. All of this in-canon as opposed to real life where yes, of course Cronk came first.
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[personal profile] beer_good_foamy 2020-07-11 08:53 am (UTC)(link)
Although if Sweden's anything like England you've had rain for... about a week now?

Oh yes, and continuing into next week, which is my first holiday week. Yay. Then again, there are worse things to do than going for long socially-distanced bike rides in a light summer drizzle.

it's people who weren't protected properly.

Exactly. If you're 87 and living in an assisted facility and get maybe half an hour of face time with another human being every day to help you with the most basic functions, it's not like you can choose to lock your door. And to the company who hired that person, taking extra care due to the virus is simply unprofitable.

If you're interested, here's a good rebuttal of the NYT hitpiece. Which I assume came about because the NYT are seeing a lot of Trump fans pointing to Sweden as proof you can get through this without doing anything, which is a) simply not true, and b) hang on, Trump fans like socialized medicine, full sick pay, job security and implicitly trusting the state now? Because that's what our entire strategy relies on. So basically, in the war between Trump and anti-Trump, we got used as a cudgel, and now the entire world is reading that article.

The way I see it, it is a monumental failure of policy, but it's partly due to the responsible health experts (and I do believe putting experts rather than politicians in charge is a good thing) assuming that we actually still have the welfare system we have on paper. Which, after 20+ years of politicians cutting mandatory services with the magical battle cry "But we're doing it without reducing quality of service!", we simply don't. Care homes, hospitals, schools, libraries, social services... it's all been sold at scrap value to clever investors who run it as cheaply as they can and pocket the difference.
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[personal profile] beer_good_foamy 2020-07-11 08:57 am (UTC)(link)
Good on your home town and your mom! If anything, this whole virus thing has proven that people are, generally, better than we think we are. But it's a shame that it has to come down to individuals taking up the slack where the people supposedly in charge don't.
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[personal profile] beer_good_foamy 2020-07-11 09:04 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks. Like I posted to elisi below, this is a pretty good rebuttal of the NYT piece.

Hope you stay safe too.
Edited 2020-07-11 09:17 (UTC)
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[personal profile] shadowkat 2020-07-11 04:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for this. I was having troubles understanding the NY Times article's logic on Sweden. This rebuttal makes more sense.

I'm struggling with the media at the moment. Too much opinion not enough facts and it's hurting their credibility.

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[personal profile] schrodingers_time_lady 2020-07-11 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
THE book? :P