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So, it was Children in Need and I vaguely wondered if there would be something Doctor Who related, and then forgot again.
Then this morning I discovered that there was a preview of tonight's episode, Kerblam!
Being shallow, this is unquestionably my favourite part of S11 to date.
Remember this?
AND HE DID!!!
There will be icons.
Anyway, am off out for the day, will catch up later. :)
Then this morning I discovered that there was a preview of tonight's episode, Kerblam!
Being shallow, this is unquestionably my favourite part of S11 to date.
Remember this?
AND HE DID!!!
There will be icons.
Anyway, am off out for the day, will catch up later. :)
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On the upside, it made me finally start reading the library e-copy of Naomi Klein's This Changes Everything that I recently borrowed, because I was seething so much I needed some current-system-analyzing substance to sink my teeth into.
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You're welcome? (I have zero motivation to write anything myself.)
I'm not yet going as far as to suggest some kind of overarching ideology from the showrunner, before I see how the whole season plays out;
As the post from Scarves & Celery said, it might be a case of doing a Both Sides take, and not realising how bad that is. And yeah, I'm waiting for the finale to see what is actually going on. Promethia has a theory that the Doctor is depressed, hence never really *doing* anything.
On the upside, it made me finally start reading the library e-copy of Naomi Klein's This Changes Everything that I recently borrowed, because I was seething so much I needed some current-system-analyzing substance to sink my teeth into.
Oh cool! Happy reading.
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Yeah. I also suspect this was something of a rushed job and would have needed more edits, because while the plot seems superficially fine - the pacing, the structure, the beats work well and all the regulars get a lot to do - there's a lot that doesn't even make sense when you stop to think about it, let alone the ethical implications. Which makes me feel nobody stopped to think about it properly during production. Still, it's telling a lot about the political values of the writer at least - even we consider it a rushed job, someone with more palatable views would have made a different sort of clumsy, you know? They wouldn't have failed to punish the corporation.
Promethia has a theory that the Doctor is depressed, hence never really *doing* anything.
I haven't felt as much as many people have that the Doctor isn't doing enough. For me the way Modern Who has the Doctor constantly saving all of the universe/all of time/all of reality has become a bit too much. I like that in Classic Who the stakes are often a bit more manageable in size. But it's true that when all episodes are put together, there's a really strange overtone of passivity that comes across, and it's very unfortunate (I hope not deliberate) to have that happen with the first female Doctor. All that said, that makes it awful that the first time she really takes a big action, it's to solely take down the straw lefty-extremist rather than address any of the issues in the running of the super-oppressive corporation. I really hope they'll fix this in the coming episodes by having her be properly take-down-the-bad-guys active. Because this episode really did bad things to my enjoyment of the series. They'd better fix it.
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This, most definitely.
I haven't felt as much as many people have that the Doctor isn't doing enough. For me the way Modern Who has the Doctor constantly saving all of the universe/all of time/all of reality has become a bit too much. I like that in Classic Who the stakes are often a bit more manageable in size.
I'm all for smaller stakes. But that shouldn't mean that they don't fight for what's right.
But it's true that when all episodes are put together, there's a really strange overtone of passivity that comes across
I think that's why the historicals (apart from being better written, full stop) are so much more satisfying? Because the characters strain against being unable to intervene. In the other stories they just sort if... walk away? IDK. I sincerely hope it's building to something. If not... Well, the show is in deep, deep trouble.
and it's very unfortunate (I hope not deliberate) to have that happen with the first female Doctor.
No kidding. What were they THINKING? :(
Because this episode really did bad things to my enjoyment of the series. They'd better fix it.
Uh-huh. They have until the finale, and if there's no improvement I'm checking out until the next showrunner comes along.
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HER LITTLE FACE!! <3 <3 <3
Though I've gotta say that the routing information for a package being delivered to a time machine has got to be quite the comedy of errors. No wonder it was a bit late.
Second best thing about this clip is Ryan and the bubble wrap. No character has ever been more relatable ever.
I have cautious hopes for this one.
ETA: oh, your link to the other Children in Need stuff is just a link to your Eleventy gif.
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Pft, I am far less spoilerphobic when I am not all that invested. :)
HER LITTLE FACE!! <3 <3 <3
Best thing about the episode (best thing about the season), still I'd be happy if they wiped the whole thing, the way they did with episodes in the olden days, if it meant the story would be wiped from canon.
Second best thing about this clip is Ryan and the bubble wrap. No character has ever been more relatable ever.
Bless him. The bubble wrap was also a plot point!
I have cautious hopes for this one.
*bitter laugh* Well you liked it, so that's good.
ETA: oh, your link to the other Children in Need stuff is just a link to your Eleventy gif.
Thanks - I just deleted the whole thing as I was on my phone...
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This would make me so happy if I had any spoilers to impart but, alas, I'm not invested, so I've no interest in pursuing them.
Best thing about the episode (best thing about the season), still I'd be happy if they wiped the whole thing, the way they did with episodes in the olden days, if it meant the story would be wiped from canon.
The crack ate it?
I think one of the best things I've ever heard on the subject of what is Doctor Who 'canon' is that obviously everything you like, in whatever medium, is canon and everything you don't like isn't. I've gotta say it seems as sensible and coherent a system as any.
Bless him. The bubble wrap was also a plot point!
At they end when they were like no, don't pop it! I was like, but he already did?
*bitter laugh* Well you liked it, so that's good.
*gives you a blanket and some tea*
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Ah well. I probably know LESS than I normally would, since I too have no interest.
The crack ate it?
Oh excellent. Yes.
I think one of the best things I've ever heard on the subject of what is Doctor Who 'canon' is that obviously everything you like, in whatever medium, is canon and everything you don't like isn't. I've gotta say it seems as sensible and coherent a system as any.
Good point. Doctor Who Doesn't Have a Canon
At they end when they were like no, don't pop it! I was like, but he already did?
That is what it's like to be a parent.
*gives you a blanket and some tea*
Do you have a camera in my house? My life is literally blankets and tea,
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I'm now entertaining myself imagining the Time Lords' reactions to all the stories that have fallen through the cracks. 'For the love of Rassillon, Doctor . . .'
Good point. Doctor Who Doesn't Have a Canon
You know, I don't think I've ever seen that before? Thank you; that's excellent. "I hate the Doctor Who canon like Dawkins hates God." *dying*
That is what it's like to be a parent.
Lol.
Do you have a camera in my house? My life is literally blankets and tea
Somehow that doesn't surprise me.
Anyway, a little more won't hurt; you obviously need them.
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Somehow now all I can hear is the Doctor (Twelve specifically) replying: 'I most certainly do not love Rassilon!'
You know, I don't think I've ever seen that before? Thank you; that's excellent. "I hate the Doctor Who canon like Dawkins hates God." *dying*
I just presume you have seen all my favourite things. Am v happy to have introduced you, it is a proper classic.
Anyway, a little more won't hurt; you obviously need them.
Very much so. (Sunday we went to Lincoln, Monday was Miss M's birthday, Tuesday we went to watch Impish Girl in a play, Wednesday Darcy was incapacitated by a horrible cold and last night he was... marginally better but still needed looking after. FAMILY LIFE. /o\)
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*snerk*
I just presume you have seen all my favourite things. Am v happy to have introduced you, it is a proper classic.
It's entirely possible I've seen it before and just forgotten. I tended to glaze over a bit in the early days when things referenced Classic Who too extensively.
Orson Pink (and the irreconcilable bits of River's episodes) have really opened me up to the idea of seeing everything as much more in flux--that the things we remember happening may no longer have happened or happened in the same way that we remember because something changed in time. I'd love to see a season of Doctor Who really play with that--I'd imagine there's novels or audios out there that do. At any rate, I find this an instinctively intriguing and freeing way to see the show. X contradicts Y? Well X didn't happen anymore, just go with it.
Very much so. (Sunday we went to Lincoln, Monday was Miss M's birthday, Tuesday we went to watch Impish Girl in a play, Wednesday Darcy was incapacitated by a horrible cold and last night he was... marginally better but still needed looking after. FAMILY LIFE. /o\)
*builds you a blanket fort*
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Not a surprising reaction.
Orson Pink (and the irreconcilable bits of River's episodes) have really opened me up to the idea of seeing everything as much more in flux--that the things we remember happening may no longer have happened or happened in the same way that we remember because something changed in time. I'd love to see a season of Doctor Who really play with that--I'd imagine there's novels or audios out there that do. At any rate, I find this an instinctively intriguing and freeing way to see the show. X contradicts Y? Well X didn't happen anymore, just go with it.
Yeah this. I think the post has a quote by Moffat saying that it is impossible for a show about time travel to have a canon? Like, it's a contradiction in terms? Stuff gets written over all the time. Things change. Rory was erased, then he wasn't. Orson Pink was stranded at the end of the universe when Missy orchestrated Danny's death (presumably), and Clara's time line was altered... What did he come back to? Were all his family erased? Or did the TARDIS return him to a universe a fraction to the left? So yeah, there is no canon.
*builds you a blanket fort*
Now I want to watch Community... (We watched an episode... Thursday night? Only like ep 8, but already everyone's characters are so fleshed out and brilliant and then I look at S11 and cry.)
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I'm so far behind (well, two episodes) I need to catch up!
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