I get the idea of fannish activity really skewing what's actually happening in a show or film. I remember my flist being awash in Steve/Bucky shipping/fic for months on end...
I think it's even worse for MCU storylines (or any film really) because there's so much less time for anything to get developed than in TV. This. It's all very action-y, high stakes stuff, whereas I just want time for the characters to breathe... (Although sometimes it works well - I remember watching Iron Man 3 before The Avengers and being intrigued at Tony's PTSD and how well that was dealt with. And then curious as to what had happened in the previous movie. Guess I was hoping for more of that here.)
I think what's also underexplored, although there if one looks, is that Steve may have company but he's also alone and trying to adjust to his new life where everyone he's known and many things he used to know are dead and gone. See I thought that was quite obvious? The plot sort of slowed to a crawl as it made time for him to sort of find his feet. (I wish I had liked the visit to Peggy more. It felt a little too generic and Hollywood-ised. Although my main fandom is time travel centric, and ending up in the wrong time/all your friends being dead is a well worn path.)
So it isn't simply that he and Bucky were like glue growing up, but that Bucky is actually alive and in the same condition that Steve is. Bucky is, for all purposes, an unexpected chance to go home again. Again, we had this in Doctor Who in the S3 finale (and again the 2009 Christmas Specials, and again in S8) and BOY HOWDY did we get 1000% more than Steve/Bucky shippers did. Although of course the Master *IS* evil, not just brainwashed... /this was a sidebar.
Maria Hill was in Avengers 1,2, and 3 and Nick's trusted second. Yes I recognised her, but in those films she just seemed to sit in front of a screen? This time she was just quietly and competently getting stuff sorted while the Cap was running around.
Actually Hydra and the Nazis worked together during WWII but they're not the same groups -- though, yes, evil. (Agents of SHIELD spends a lot more time on them). I sort of conflate them, because Hydra is obviously the Avengers' metaphorical Nazis.
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I remember my flist being awash in Steve/Bucky shipping/fic for months on end...
I think it's even worse for MCU storylines (or any film really) because there's so much less time for anything to get developed than in TV.
This. It's all very action-y, high stakes stuff, whereas I just want time for the characters to breathe... (Although sometimes it works well - I remember watching Iron Man 3 before The Avengers and being intrigued at Tony's PTSD and how well that was dealt with. And then curious as to what had happened in the previous movie. Guess I was hoping for more of that here.)
I think what's also underexplored, although there if one looks, is that Steve may have company but he's also alone and trying to adjust to his new life where everyone he's known and many things he used to know are dead and gone.
See I thought that was quite obvious? The plot sort of slowed to a crawl as it made time for him to sort of find his feet. (I wish I had liked the visit to Peggy more. It felt a little too generic and Hollywood-ised. Although my main fandom is time travel centric, and ending up in the wrong time/all your friends being dead is a well worn path.)
So it isn't simply that he and Bucky were like glue growing up, but that Bucky is actually alive and in the same condition that Steve is. Bucky is, for all purposes, an unexpected chance to go home again.
Again, we had this in Doctor Who in the S3 finale (and again the 2009 Christmas Specials, and again in S8) and BOY HOWDY did we get 1000% more than Steve/Bucky shippers did. Although of course the Master *IS* evil, not just brainwashed... /this was a sidebar.
Maria Hill was in Avengers 1,2, and 3 and Nick's trusted second.
Yes I recognised her, but in those films she just seemed to sit in front of a screen? This time she was just quietly and competently getting stuff sorted while the Cap was running around.
Actually Hydra and the Nazis worked together during WWII but they're not the same groups -- though, yes, evil. (Agents of SHIELD spends a lot more time on them).
I sort of conflate them, because Hydra is obviously the Avengers' metaphorical Nazis.