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elisi ([personal profile] elisi) wrote2018-03-18 05:30 pm
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And then we tried to watch Pacific Rim...

It was in ITV2 last night. And we got half way through.

I had this notion that it was a Good Thing; not quite sure why, but that was the fannish vibe I had gotten. (I also got Good Thing vibe re. Guardians of the Galaxy, and found *that* unwatchable, although for different reasons.) Anyway, I should backtrack a little...

When we went to see Black Panther one of the trailers was puzzling. It looked vaguely Transformer-y, had a young & nicely diverse cast - and seemed to be about giant robots punching monsters in the face. It wasn't until the final titles flashed up that I discovered it was for Pacific Rim 2.

Somehow no one had ever mentioned that Pacific Rim was about giant robots punching monsters in the face... Generally if a movie is dumb, but awesome, I pick up on it and set my expectations accordingly. Ah well. I don't know that it would have made a difference.

Anyhoo, it was on telly, Darcy said 'fancy watching it?' and so we did. Except this one didn't have a diverse cast (except for Idris Elba and the Japanese girl), instead it had a plethora of Riley clones, minus the charm & personality. (Seriously, I cannot remember the main character's name. Did he HAVE a name? I'm serious, did anyone ever mention it?) And Darcy commented that they all looked like 'human wallpaper, completely featureless'. I swear they could have swapped them round and I wouldn't have noticed.

Which might have been manageable if there had been a coherent story or the characters hadn't ALL BEEN SO VERY STUPID or the writing had been OK or... something. IDK. Basically the Honest Trailer is PERFECT, it's simply a film 'starring things your inner 9 year-old will love':

Giant robots!
Giant monsters!
Giant robots punching giant monsters!
Using shipping crates as brass knuckles!
Using a freighter as a baseball bat!
Bo staff fighting!
Colors!
A doggy!
Aw, that's got three arms!
Pew pew pew!
Whoa!
And that one part...
Where he's all like 'Ugh'
And the Kaiju's all 'Rarr'



Although on the plus side, Smurfette the female character wasn't sexualised (at all), again confirming the 'made for 9 year olds' theory.


Don't get me wrong, there is nothing WRONG with giant robots, especially since Darcy then discovered a movie called Robot Jox from 1989, from which Pacific Rim clearly has taken most of it's cues/ideas (just adding Godzilla). The film's plot follows Achilles, one of the "robot jox" who pilot giant machines that fight international battles to settle territorial disputes in a dystopian, post-apocalyptic world.

JUST LOOK AT THIS SEQUENCE (and see how the Pacific Rim robots are literally lifted wholesale). Bonus, this movie's hero has a memorable name, and I already care about his world:



(WHY DOES EVERYONE STILL LIVE IN THOSE CITIES IN PACIFIC RIM??!??? WHY DO THEY ALL RUN AROUND PANICKING, WHY ARE THERE NOT PROCEDURES IN PLACE??? WHY- ok, I'll stop. There are no answers beyond 'robots punching monsters in the face'.)
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[personal profile] ruuger 2018-03-18 06:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm so happy I'm not the only person who doesn't get the appeal of that movie! It was so boring, and not even stupid in an entertaining way.
Edited 2018-03-18 18:42 (UTC)
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[personal profile] greensword 2018-03-18 06:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I have not seen any of the movies in question however I saw the phrase "Achilles vs Alexander" and now I want a fight movie that's somehow about Achilles taking on Alexander the Great with maybe a subplot of Patroclus and Haphaestion trying to work out some kind of diplomatic solution.
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[personal profile] beccaelizabeth 2018-03-18 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
the point with pacific rim is
drift compatible
it's giant robots beating up giant monsters
with the power of friendship
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[personal profile] beccaelizabeth 2018-03-18 07:29 pm (UTC)(link)
honestly I mostly read the fanfic aus in other fandoms
that's the bit they keep
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[personal profile] orangerful 2018-03-18 07:34 pm (UTC)(link)
My inner 9 year old did enjoy the movie the one time I've seen it. It was stupid but some good mindless fun. Felt like a very over-the-top Power Rangers episode LOL. And now John Boyega is in the sequel so I'm kinda hoping that is just as fun because I like John Boyega. :)

But yeah gotta be in the right mindset for it. I still need to rewatch "In Bruges" because I was not int he mood for that kind of movie when I sat down to watch it since the trailers were just SO WRONG in how they promoted it.
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[personal profile] nostalgia 2018-03-18 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I like it but I still don't get why the coastal cities still had massive populations.
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[personal profile] orangerful 2018-03-18 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
The trailers for "In Bruges" misrepresented the entire thing and I sat down thinking I was going to get to watch a goofball comedy so I hated it but then after talking to people who liked it, I realized it was more my fault than the movies'. Some day I will go back to it.
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[personal profile] yourlibrarian 2018-03-19 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
I wasn't very impressed with it either. I agree with beccaelizabeth that these seem to be the factors that fandom latched on to. I did watch the whole thing but have no interest in seeing the sequel.

Re: people moving away from the coast, yes, you'd think so wouldn't you? I'd think that giant monsters would be traumatic enough for anyone. But then again there are people who live on coasts now that are threatened, who live by rivers that continually flood them, etc. And governments are doing little to nothing about all these coastal communities that need to start making plans to move now if they're going to all be out by the time the waters cover them.

Now I'm curious what you didn't like about Guardians!
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[personal profile] owlboy 2018-03-19 09:15 am (UTC)(link)
iirc it was meant to be an analogy for climate change or something.

i watched it a few years ago and i dont remember any single thing about it whatsoever
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[personal profile] greensword 2018-03-19 06:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Any AUs you'd recommend? I've no desire to see Pacific Rim but it'd be cool to see explorations of drift compatibility.
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[personal profile] beccaelizabeth 2018-03-19 06:21 pm (UTC)(link)
not so much from memory, it has been a while, but my bookmarks yielded a few recs
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[personal profile] greensword 2018-03-19 06:30 pm (UTC)(link)
thank you! :)
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[personal profile] yourlibrarian 2018-03-19 07:08 pm (UTC)(link)
His ~journey~ probably has something to do with his father, because when doesn't it?

So true. I seem to remember seeing some post about the rash of terrible parenting in the MCU but then I'd be willing to bet that this is true of the vast majority of entertainment written whether in books, films, or TV. Perhaps it's a trope along with "married couples are inherently boring" that "people warped by their parenting make for the most interesting protagonists."

I was puzzled by the "Karen Gillen" allusions. What's that in reference to?
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[personal profile] yourlibrarian 2018-03-19 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahhh, I see, she played Nebula. I wasn't familiar with her and had forgotten her name. I got confused because you mentioned she was green which was actually Zoe Saldana's role so I thought maybe Karen was some sort of inside joke (you know, like some other green tinged character). Karen was actually blue ;)

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