promethia_tenk: (storytellers)
promethia_tenk ([personal profile] promethia_tenk) wrote in [personal profile] elisi 2018-01-28 05:55 pm (UTC)

Alright, here I am at last, better late than never and all that <3

I do see what you mean, but then it's not a meaty episode. I think you wrung about about what there is to say about it, with a little pictures and a little poetry, so that's pretty nice.

Although how did they count the episodes? And what poor sap had to do it?
I assume they did the normal thing and consulted Wikipedia . . .

On a more serious note, we see how this attitude (and the corresponding 'stiff upper lip' for males) can also hurt people
I never quite got around to teasing out the intricacies of the mirroring between the Captain and the Doctor(s), none of whom want to die. I mean, the comparison is fairly obvious, but I feel like there's something in there I haven't quite put my finger on.

I don't think I caught that initially - that One thinks Twelve is from Gallifrey & he's finally been caught.
Aaaahhhhh. Nice.

This line is wonderful on oh so many levels. And not just because now I'm imagining Bill, Nardole & Twelve watching Bake-Off. <3
No offense to the rest of your post, but this is the best thing in it =DDDDDDD

As a farewell and a celebration of the end of this particular era (Twelve/Moffat/male Doctors - take your pick), it's very fitting that we should visit this Dalek, the one Dalek that changed, the one Dalek that learned to see further than the rest...
MMmmm. Nice. I feel like I vaguely thought about this connection and then let it slip away on me . . .

Twelve has laid his demons to rest, and it's probably good that he left One at the bottom of the tower as those lines might have pushed him over the edge. He found it difficult enough as it was...
*blink* good point

Twelve speaks without thinking here - as One has obviously never put the universe back together (ETA: I stand corrected, apparently this is a reference to The Three Doctors) - but it's something Eleven did for the sake of a little girl getting her parents back (and because the universe was blowing up of course). We see One's natural self-assurance, but the power Twelve wields without thinking is foreign to him, the power that lies in his name alone:
Also reminds me of the Library eps in Ten's reaction to River talking about seeing whole armies turn and run away (and the audience reaction, too). Who is that guy? That doesn't sound good. And I guess it's a tension we never really saw resolved in Eleven's era. It took Twelve deciding to just use all that power and then having to tangle properly with the consequences in order to wear it as . . . lightly is certainly not the right word, but in the unconflicted way he does here.

Also 'The Last Tree of Garsennon'? Is that going to be relevant in Chibnall's era? I hope so. I presume 'The Butcher of Skull Moon' was the War Doctor.
It reminded me when Rusty threw out a bunch of grand and high-fantasy sounding things about the Time War in EoT. Like, why not just throw it out there? The Whoniverse is bigger than we'll ever see. Also in Before the Flood when fake!Amy says they're 'before the Minister of War' and Twelve directs her not to elaborate because he'll probably get there eventually.

Also very similar to the Great Intelligence's spinning out of the Doctor's names in Name of the Doctor.

He saved a random man (well, two) - and unwittingly saved one of his oldest friend’s grandfather… And in the process helped One to formulate an alternative to ‘War Doctor’.
On a podcast, I forget which one now, they pointed out the importance of him saving the german soldier as well. It's not just saving the one he got to know because now we're sympathetic to him. It's saving who he could because he could.

This line reminded me of River (not surprisingly, since River sent Nardole to look after the Doctor and passed on her wisdom):
Knew that line was niggling me.

what it means to be the Doctor and how pears are horrible and 'Always try to be nice'. Which just goes to show far we've come since Twelve's beginning, when 'nice' was a pointless effort.
I like the distinction he draws between always try to be nice, but never fail to be kind. It was a distinction, I think, that tripped up Ten, Eleven, and Twelve (Twelve more in his reaction against his past self, the other two being prone to failing to be kind by trying to be nice).

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