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elisi ([personal profile] elisi) wrote2017-06-24 03:09 pm
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The Eaters of Light (DW S10.10)

So, last weekend was very very busy, only saw this episode on Monday and have been vaguely attempting to write something in the days that followed.

It's a lovely, lovely episode, and deserves far better than these scattered thoughts, but I know tonight's episode will be quite something so felt the need to post SOMETHING, before the story moved on.

So here it is. Very basic, barely cover a quarter of what I'd like, but it's better than nothing... Oh and a great deal is Promethia's, literally.

IMAGERY

Music. The music in the hill, which carries through right from the first scene.

CLARA: You said memories become stories when we forget them. Maybe some of them become songs.

The story of the gatekeepers, carved in stone and preserved as music, forever. It's like touching on all the songs and rhymes from the Pond era, but with a different focus. (There is a beautiful Face of Boe fic - In Perpetuity - where Jack turns his memories/the names that mattered to him into song.)

Also the whole concept of oral traditions, knowledge turned into songs. Inhabited stones. (I grew up in a country with inhabited stones, where roads have been adapted so as not to disturb the Little People. Where people still sing ballads centuries old, telling of Viking and medieval exploits, where history is a living, breathing thing.) Of course Britain is much the same, history written onto the landscape, knowing that where we step, heroes of legend once walked.

There is also the fact of music and magic being linked, that music has power... Music hits parts of us that mere words can't. But I'll get back to this.

~

I love the fact that the crows are remembering. (Again, so much there with crows and Nordic culture. But time is short and I am tired.)

~

Cairns are built underground, but near the sky. And in alignment with the sun. I shall be brief, merely quoting this always brilliant post by Phil Sandifer (I've not read him him in years, but this particular insight keeps being exquisite). I've bolded the most revelant parts:

What, then, does Moffat add to this lineage? What does Moffat propose to bring to Doctor Who’s alchemy? A story about the relationship between people and their stories. One that proclaims that when faced with a diseased and rotting story the solution is to simply tell a new one - a better one. One that rejects silence, that treats storytelling as a moral duty and its absence as a moral obscenity. And perhaps most crucially, one that is about a symbolic ascension. Because in the end, the way in which Amy saves Britain’s soul is by finally becoming a creature of narrative and fairy tale, and by embracing that role. How do you save the world from its own intrinsic evil? By being amazing, breaking the rules, and, when the narrative points to something awful, telling a different sort of story.

And so the moral heart of the Moffat era stands, for a moment, revealed - an understanding and principle we can take forward in reading everything else that he does. It is an observation that stems inexorably from the history of alchemy within the series and from the underlying imagery of this story. “As above, so below,” the injunction goes - a declaration that manipulating symbols and manipulating objects is, in some sense, the same thing. That a symbol and a thing are in some sense interchangeable. What is the moral heart of the Moffat era? It is simple.

The secret of material social progress is alchemy.

The Alchemists of the Middle Ages Made Transmutation Their Main Aim in Life (The Beast Below)

We see a perfect example of this in The Easters of Light.


THE DOCTOR

In short:

EVERYTHING ISN'T THE DOCTOR'S RESPONSIBILITY. WHAT A FREAKING BEAUTIFUL EPISODE TO SAY THAT WITH.

And I love the fact that it's the Doctor who initially voices the issue:

DOCTOR: You know, every moment you waste wallowing about in that happy thought means more of the living are going to join them. When you want to win a war, remember this. It's not about you. Believe me, I know. Time to grow up, Kar. Time to fight your fight.

And then he has it thrown back in his face, when he tries to make it all about himself:

KAR: Time to grow up, Doctor. Time to fight my fight.
DOCTOR: I'm sorry, no. No one else can do this, not like I can.
LUCIUS: We can. I'm ready. I'll guard the gate with you. I'll fight by your side.


Later, when reflecting in the TARDIS, we get another beautiful moment, which calls back to the end of S9:

ASHILDR: I've been watching the stars die. It was beautiful.
DOCTOR: No. It was sad.
ASHILDR: No, it was both. But that's not something you would understand, is it? You don't like endings. She died, Doctor. Clara died billions of years ago.
DOCTOR: You killed her.
ASHILDR: No.
DOCTOR: You let it happen.
ASHILDR: No, I didn't. Neither did you. She did. She died for who she was and who she loved. She fell where she stood. It was sad, and it was beautiful.

~~~

MISSY: Oh those little people, trapped in a hill, fighting forever. Is that up to your bleeding heart standards?
DOCTOR: Well, they're not trapped, and they're more than just fighting. And there's music. Always music.


Now, would you look at who actually learned something? :)

Basically, the Doctor was everything you could possibly want him to be in this episode. Clever, funny, kind, cagey, cantankerous, actually showing the wisdom of 2000+ years and making good with it... and with someone next to him smart enough to clock him one when he's being an idiot.

I love how the Doctor's like 'so, my plan is, I trap myself some place for eternity, in an endless cycle of pain, death, and regeneration.'

And everybody is like 'ummm . . . no?'

It's like 'look, trust me. I've done this before and for far less noble reasons.'

It's like Twelve, having learned that he is actually capable of sitting in one place and being reliable(ish), has gone slightly overboard in exercising this newfound skill: I feel like a whole treasure trove has been opened for me! I'm going to guard LOTS of things!

Quick sidebar: There are of course all the echoes of the Zygon episodes: 'You're all the same you screaming kids!' / 'You can either keep slaughtering each other, or you can grow up.'

And the delightful fact that the oldest person/the leader is always called ‘Grandfather’. <3

DOCTOR: You all do.
BILL: Is this what happens when you understand what everyone in the universe is saying? Everybody just sounds like children?
DOCTOR: There are exceptions.



[CLASSIC] WHO

People compared this episode to an Old Who episode too. Frankly, this is the way to do that. Like, it felt simple and straightforward, in its own way, and yet there was so much in there.

I'm trying to think why this feels old Who-ish, other than everybody's expectation that it should because the writer wrote for old Who. I think it's the treatment of the monster? We are neither made to sympathize with it nor is it made a metaphor for the Doctor or a companion [although there are further thoughts on this below]. I suppose it's just looking to eat, so not exactly evil, but we don't go into that. It's just full-on 'hunger looks a lot like evil from the wrong side of the cutlery,' and the depth comes from the interactions of the Celts, Romans, and the TARDIS crew.

I also don't think it really goes into a metaphorical layer? There's a lot of ideas here, but everybody just represents themselves.

It does remind me of that brand of magical realism we had for a bit in season eight--the moon is an egg, the forests protect us--that was so notable following the Pond-era fairytale feel.

I love the beat where realizing that the TARDIS is making everybody understand each other (Bill, to the Doctor: That's you, yeah?) becomes the catalyst for them all... understanding each other.

Like, it's such a perfect little metaphorical moment for what the Doctor is/should be that I can't believe nobody's done it before?



SOLDIERS and MONSTERS and MISSY

And here again we see soldiers as complex - scared, running away, conflicted, defensive, welcoming, human; heroic. (Moreso than in Empress of Mars, as it's not just one man forming an alliance, but a whole group).

The Romans turn from plunderers to defenders, and there is something wonderful in how almost happy they are. That last shot of Lucius smiling at Bill before he disappears is just incredible. There is a joyfulness to battle, to throwing your all into doing the right thing.

Of course, it's also worth noting how the Pict's warrior is a teenage girl, fierce and combative, but also vulnerable and hurting.

And she is the Gatekeeper, the chosen one defending the world against the monsters, and in that role, she and the Doctor overlap...

DOCTOR: I've been standing by the gates of your world, keeping you all safe, since you crawled out of the slime. I'm not stopping now.

They're obviously hitting us over the head with Monk parallels now. But there is another parallel:

BILL: What about the other gates that you have to guard? What about the Vault?

Because the Doctor is Missy's guardian/gatekeeper, sworn to protect, to not allow the monster out.

And now he - just like Kar - made a tactical decision to bend the rules a little. To 'help'.

KAR: I have to stop it. This is my fault. I'm the Keeper of the Gate. I have to put this right.
DOCTOR: So, you were supposed to guard the gate while everyone else went off to war. But you had strangers at the door, and a guard dog in the attic, so you let the beast come through.
KAR: It was the only thing that could defeat them.
DOCTOR: So you thought the Eater Of Light could destroy a whole Roman army.
KAR: It did.
DOCTOR: And a whole Roman army could weaken or kill the beast.
KAR: Yes.
DOCTOR: Well, it didn't work. You got a Roman legion slaughtered, and you made the deadliest creature on this planet very, very cross indeed. To protect a muddy little hillside, you doomed your whole world.


~~~

NARDOLE: How did you get out of the Vault? Sir, what do we do? How could this happen?
DOCTOR: It's all right, Nardole. She's been doing some work for me.
NARDOLE: She's supposed to be in the Vault!
DOCTOR: How were the engines?
MISSY: Better than you deserve. You are naughty. Do you ever do basic maintenance?
DOCTOR: No, but I've got a plan for that.
MISSY: What?
DOCTOR: You.
BILL: Seriously? What, she's doing chores for you now?
MISSY: Do relax, you two. I'm bio-locked out of the controls. I can't even get through those doors. I'm as much a prisoner here as I am in the Vault.
NARDOLE: No, you most certainly are not.
BILL: Doctor. Seriously. Why did you let her out?
MISSY: ... now he's getting Tardis maintenance for free. Let's not get carried away.


I mentioned last week how she swapped one box (the Vault) for another (the TARDIS), and it's very easy to see why the Doctor hopes that maybe the monster has changed - see this Tumblr post (read the tags!!).

A temptation has to be real to work. (And it's a temptation for both of them...)

[personal profile] owlboy was spot on last week, when he described the Doctor's reaction to seeing Missy in the TARDIS thusly, and Missy's consequent concern ('Are you alright?'):

I guess she might simply be totally stunned at the level of his emotional reaction and not knowing how to respond. I mean the dude has giant wet anime eyes. He's in tears. Probably because the big dumb baby's all-consuming fantasy is going on road trips with his BFF, and he can't ever have that, because she's nutty crackers. ''This can't happen'' is as much a reminder to himself as it is to her. The 'hearts beating' sound people heard in the background is just the adrenalin rush of having everything you ever wanted in front of your face and crying on the inside because you can't have it.

Which then reminded me of this:

DOCTOR: I had a friend once. We ran together when I was little. And I thought we were the same. But when we grew up, we weren't. Now, she's trying to tear the world apart, and I can't run fast enough to hold it together. The difference is this.
(The Doctor puts his hand over Danny's chest disc.)
DOCTOR: Pain is a gift. Without the capacity for pain, we can't feel the hurt we inflict.


Missy doesn't understand it yet; the pain she is beginning to feel. It regularly threatens to destroy the Doctor, because it's a horrible thing to live with.

So I think we can all agree that it doesn't look like Twelve & Missy will end the season by travelling the universe as BFFs. Here's another Tumblr post that sums up my expectations rather well:

That's the trouble with hope. It's hard to resist.

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[personal profile] promethia_tenk 2017-06-24 02:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know how you do it week after week.
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[personal profile] promethia_tenk 2017-06-24 02:28 pm (UTC)(link)
The crushing weight of self-imposed duty?
Sometimes, often, constantly I face the crushing guilt of my endless capacity for laziness and procrastination. It is, truly, one of my greatest demons. About the only thing I can say for it is that the alternative sounds far worse ; )

Off to edit again . . .
Cheers!
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[personal profile] enevarim 2017-06-24 03:29 pm (UTC)(link)
There is, as usual, too much, but thank you, and as a grace note to memories becoming stories or songs, the picture of the TARDIS on the Pictish stone marking the cairn and the stories at the end of the cold open totally recalled / bookended the new Roman lares of Caecilius’s family after they moved away / were rescued from Pompeii...
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[personal profile] nuraicha 2017-06-24 03:57 pm (UTC)(link)
THIS, ALL THIS. Brilliant analysis! I have just woken up for a nap and I have to revise so I can't really add much more, but I especially liked your thoughts on music and Missy. I think we're in for a rollercoaster tonight! (FIRST EVER WHO EPISODE SINCE I MOVED TO ENGLAND I'M EXCITED).

Also, let me add a thumbs up about the historical accuracy of views on bisexuality for the Romans. That totally touched me! <3
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[personal profile] watervole 2017-06-25 10:33 am (UTC)(link)
One thing gives me hope. The Master heard the drums, but for a moment, Missy heard the music.
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[personal profile] maia 2017-06-28 06:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Beautiful and insightful, as always. Thank you for writing, thank you for posting, and thank you for existing!


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[identity profile] auroracloud.livejournal.com 2017-06-24 05:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't write anything nearly as in-depth and coherent at this point, especially seeing as I'm still missing a few series in between (I've watched up to mid-S6) and therefore can't see all of the continuity. But I really loved this episode, and yes, I really adored that it made such a point of the Doctor not being responsible for everything. And I'm curious to see where the stuff with Missy is going! Really looking forward to the next episode. Don't think I can watch it in peace before tomorrow night, or maybe Monday, but I hope I'll enjoy it!

[identity profile] flowsoffire.livejournal.com 2017-06-24 07:13 pm (UTC)(link)
It's like Twelve, having learned that he is actually capable of sitting in one place and being reliable(ish), has gone slightly overboard in exercising this newfound skill: I feel like a whole treasure trove has been opened for me! I'm going to guard LOTS of things!
Hahaha I LOVE THIS. (Also, totally having Last Centurion associations—with Stonehenge!)

Besides, my global reaction to this post is more or less along the lines of "yes, absolutely, all of this!" ;)

[identity profile] flowsoffire.livejournal.com 2017-06-27 07:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Although he of course guarded the crack for the best part of a millenium on Trenzalore, even if that's a while ago.
True :)

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[personal profile] promethia_tenk (from livejournal.com) 2017-06-28 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
*pokes* Plz to un-spam my comment? *bats eyelashes*

Admittedly, linking people to YouTube is a particularly pernicious and annoying behavior.
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[personal profile] promethia_tenk (from livejournal.com) 2017-06-28 11:10 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, they're not even letting you see it?

I replied to flowsoffire linking her to the Top Gear clip I was riffing on in that Twelve comment. I guess LJ figures someone without an account posting a link is likely a spammer.
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[personal profile] promethia_tenk (from livejournal.com) 2017-06-28 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Hahaha I LOVE THIS.
Thank you! I was rather tickled by it myself.

(I was riffing on one of my favorite bits of Top Gear.)

And totally yes on the Last Centurian associations.

[identity profile] ragnarok-08.livejournal.com 2017-06-25 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, I totally agree with you on this post <333

[identity profile] ever-neutral.livejournal.com 2017-06-25 01:50 pm (UTC)(link)
but I know tonight's episode will be quite something
WASN'T IT JUST

There is also the fact of music and magic being linked, that music has power... Music hits parts of us that mere words can't.
Singin' my song! ;D

EVERYTHING ISN'T THE DOCTOR'S RESPONSIBILITY. WHAT A FREAKING BEAUTIFUL EPISODE TO SAY THAT WITH.
And this season has been beautifully consistent about this! From Bill making a deal with the devil to save him, to Bill saving the world via the power of love (so the Doctor didn't have to)… And it wasn't the Doctor who earned the Ice Queen's mercy either.

I love how the Doctor's like 'so, my plan is, I trap myself some place for eternity, in an endless cycle of pain, death, and regeneration.'
And everybody is like 'ummm . . . no?'

Literally this whole season is "um no" @ the Doctor… I love it.

the chosen one defending the world against the monsters
I see what your brain is doing there.

A temptation has to be real to work. (And it's a temptation for both of them...)



This ship will take me down with them.
sea_thoughts: Ruby in *The Legend of Ruby Sunday* (DWBill Potts - tillthenexttimedoctor)

[personal profile] sea_thoughts 2017-06-28 07:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry I'm late.

There is also the fact of music and magic being linked, that music has power... Music hits parts of us that mere words can't.

"Music, a magic beyond we do here" as JK Rowling put it.

I love the fact that the crows are remembering.

Odin's familiars, right? Hugin and Munin, thought and memory. <3

You know, every moment you waste wallowing about in that happy thought means more of the living are going to join them. When you want to win a war, remember this. It's not about you. Believe me, I know. Time to grow up, Kar. Time to fight your fight.

What a beautiful summary of the Tenth Doctor's arc.

And there's music. Always music.

"when the wind stands fair and the night is perfect, when you least expect it but always when you need it the most there is a song." <333

It's like Twelve, having learned that he is actually capable of sitting in one place and being reliable(ish), has gone slightly overboard in exercising this newfound skill: I feel like a whole treasure trove has been opened for me! I'm going to guard LOTS of things!

but also running away from the Vault and Missy WITHOUT TECHNICALLY RUNNING AWAY AHAHAHA I'M SO CLEVER - *is coshed by Bill* I really love that Bill is still very much capable of smacking the Doctor if she needs to. Clearly shooting him point blank really helped when it comes to telling him "no".

Of course, it's also worth noting how the Pict's warrior is a teenage girl, fierce and combative, but also vulnerable and hurting.

And of course she is the first person that Bill meets. Bill, who is also fierce but vulnerable, mourning the loss of her mother.

Pain is a gift. Without the capacity for pain, we can't feel the hurt we inflict.

WHICH OF COURSE TIES RIGHT INTO THE NEXT EPISODE HAHAHAHA-*sob*
sea_thoughts: Ruby in *The Legend of Ruby Sunday* (HPTrio - dark_branwen)

[personal profile] sea_thoughts 2017-07-01 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Shiny! I do not remember that line.

It's from the first book - Dumbledore says it in his speech after they finish singing the school song. <3 (Should be "a magic beyond all we do here")
sea_thoughts: Ruby in *The Legend of Ruby Sunday* (HPTrio - dark_branwen)

[personal profile] sea_thoughts 2017-07-05 03:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I recently did a re-read of DH with my friends and we've gone back to PS and wowww so many things I didn't realise on first reading this book.