elisi: Edwin holding a tiny snowman (Grandma Clinton)
elisi ([personal profile] elisi) wrote2016-11-18 06:47 pm

What frickin' bizarro world did I wake up in?

I feel like Cordy:

Cordelia: Spike's a hero and you're CEO of Hell, Incorporated. What frickin' bizarro world did I wake up in?

Seriously. What IS this?



Also, Jon Stewart argues against the idea that all Trump voters are racist (I have not watched it, but the ONTD crowd are NOT happy)

Here's Miss Manners explaining the problem (x):



FYI I have added two more tags:

darkest timeline (usa)
This is for stuff to do with Fuckface von Clownstick and the fallout from the administration

never give up never surrender
This is for stuff you can do, how to protest etc etc.

And finally, re. normalisation, I went and found this passage:

There are now a good many summer visitors to the village. The bathing-beach by the pier, with its array of banners, begins to look like a medieval camp. Each family has its own enormous hooded wicker beach-chair, and each chair flies a little flag. There are the German city-flags – Hamburg, Hanover, Dresden, Rostock and Berlin, as well as the National, Republican and Nazi colours. Each chair is encircled by a low sand bulwark upon which the occupants have set inscriptions in fir-cones: Familie Walter. Stahlhelm. Heil Hitler! Many of the forts are also decorated with the Nazi swastika. The other morning I saw a child of about five years old, stark naked, marching along all by himself with a swastika flag over his shoulder and singing “Deutschland über allies.”

The little Doctor fairly revels in this atmosphere. Nearly every morning he arrives, on a missionary visit, to our fort. “You really ought to come round to the other beach,” he tells us. “It’s much more amusing there. I’d introduce you to come nice girls. The young people here are a magnificent lot! I, as a doctor, know how to appreciate them. The other day I was over at Hiddensee. Nothing but Jews! It’s a pleasure to get back here and see real Nordic types!”
Christopher Isherwood, The Berlin Novels



Oh, and BRITISH PEOPLE! Here's a petition for you:

Do not make Nigel Farage a lord
IT HAS LESS THAN 9000 SIGNATURES!
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[personal profile] promethia_tenk 2016-11-19 12:34 pm (UTC)(link)
It's always fascinating for me, in times like these, to watch the evolution of my own thoughts in relation to the mood around me and how quickly they start diverging. I mean, obviously I was deeply upset about this. Still am, probably. I have zero doubt that there is some fucked-up shit coming down the pike for us. But at the same time it is so hard to sustain strong emotion, even about this, and my brain is already going down deep tangents about the kinds of profound change that this is probably going to bring on and finding it exciting?

I mean, it's not like, that's it, the Nazis have won and it's all over. Everything in society is reacting, shifting. In the same way that Trump can be read as a result of Obama, I think the end result of Trump will be similarly strong and opposite. I think both parties are going to be profoundly changed and re-aligned. I think quite possibly the balance of power between our branches of government will change. I think quite possibly we'll see more states reaching for greater independent powers. I think our sense of who we are as Americans has already profoundly changed. I think the mentality of American exceptionalism is probably dead soon. I think about the NY Times noting that white Christians are now a minority and all those stories about how white people figured out how to vote as a block and the stories about how how we're feeling now is how minorities feel all the time and I'm seeing that we're realizing and coping with the feeling that everybody in America is a minority right now. We're learning as a society right now how to deal with having a country with no majorities. It's not happening thirty years in the future, it's happening now.

I think this profoundly changes our relationship to media. You see it happening already, in the conversations about how did this happen? What was the media's culpability here? What is the responsibility of outlets like Facebook to police fake news? Trump has threatened the press, wants to tamp them down. I think it just as likely he raises a beast. This may save journalism. Probably it won't look like journalism as we knew it, but I think it's going to be a vital institution for us in the years ahead.

And I happened to be reading a book going into the election about the way that connections (resources, trade, data, migration) are taking over from nation-states as the defining organization of our world. Part of this is the idea that the world is now domination by inter-connected mega-cities whose residents feel more like citizens of the global city than they do their individual countries. A very real danger of this, the author points out, is that the cities abandon their hinterlands and these areas are completely left out of the new world--that one sat heavy in my stomach last Tuesday night. I'll tell you, for all the talk of red states and blue states we've had for twenty years, this time feels different. The palpable sense that the coast cities are a fundamentally different place from everywhere in between and the residents of both have no understanding of each other's situations--very real. I don't know how you fix that. Maybe, down the road, the country does break up. It's always been a somewhat unwieldy conglomeration.

And, in conclusion, there is a deep core of me that loves change for its own sake.
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[personal profile] sea_thoughts 2016-11-18 07:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I understand what Jon Stewart is trying to say BUT the fact is that people who voted for Trump or a third party decided that the rights of minorities aren't important, that the rights of women aren't important, that their dislike for Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama is more important than the lives of anyone who isn't white and/or straight. And that's racist.

Wake me up when 2016 ends.
lynnenne: (politics: fight the power)

[personal profile] lynnenne 2016-11-19 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
This.
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[personal profile] sea_thoughts 2016-11-19 10:53 am (UTC)(link)
No, I just want this year to be over.
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[personal profile] sea_thoughts 2016-11-19 10:59 am (UTC)(link)
Happy Birthday to Miss M, who shares her birthday with the Moff. :) Today is a good day, we can certainly keep it.
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[personal profile] sea_thoughts 2016-11-19 02:24 pm (UTC)(link)
D'oh! Still, what's 24 hours?

[identity profile] kita0610.livejournal.com 2016-11-18 07:21 pm (UTC)(link)
He now has white supremicists or their sympathiizers in charge of military, foreign affairs, and attorney general. I really do need to talk to someone who knows anything about getting the hell out of dodge.

[identity profile] a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com 2016-11-18 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
If you find out, clue me in. Cause I'm lost, discouraged and needing to GO. For my kiddos sake if for nothing else!

*HUGS*

[identity profile] a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com 2016-11-18 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I get what Stewart is trying to do. But even those who DIDN'T vote Because Racist, still allowed everything that was wrong with the Trump Camp into the White House, saying (through votes) that his brand of asshattery is normal and hate is okay. I don't agree with Stewart on everything...and this is one of those times. But I respect that he felt this needed to be said.

OMG, yes. Our world has been tilting to insanity for over two decades. We finally landed in it. It's like waking up after being in a steadily increasingly abusive relationship for several years and realizing that it IS an abusive relationship...and there is nowhere else to go.

*HUGS*

[identity profile] a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com 2016-11-19 04:40 pm (UTC)(link)
They said the Trump voters voted Trump because they were angry - but that vote has now angered everyone else...

Right?? Because all of America has been painted with this brush. And we don't like it too well.

[identity profile] geekslave.livejournal.com 2016-11-18 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
The Miss manners thing made me laugh! Straight and to the point and very correct! LOL!

Stacey

[identity profile] chasingdemons.livejournal.com 2016-11-18 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Always listen to Miss Manners! It is way too early for anyone to tell us to "give him a chance" or try to explain in any way why any of this is OK. I don't know, maybe someday I'll be ready for that, but it sure isn't today. I say this as I get constant news of the thugs and fellow racests he is putting in his cabinet. Anyone who supported Trump for any reason made the decision that the moral degradation he brings to this country was not as important as their issue. That's problematic.

And now I have to figure out how to communicate with my mother, who I haven't called since the election. She supported Trump because "if he has such lovely children, it must be good".
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[personal profile] sea_thoughts 2016-11-19 10:58 am (UTC)(link)
If he has such lovely children, all credit to their mothers since he had very little input in their day-to-day care. :P

[identity profile] kita0610.livejournal.com 2016-11-19 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
... Where is Cooper doing that? I just watched the interview. Agreeing with Glenn Beck made me wanna hurl, but I didn't hear AC say anything inappropriate. What did I miss?
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[personal profile] lynnenne 2016-11-19 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
There's a new community on Dreamwidth for links to anti-Trump resources: http://thisfinecrew.dreamwidth.org/
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[personal profile] lynnenne 2016-11-19 04:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I am outraged. I'm always outraged at injustice, especially when it involves sexism or racism, but it's the sheer SCALE of the -isms here that makes me furious. 53 percent of white women voters supported Trump? WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?!? Obviously your racism outweighed your own sense of self-preservation.

I pretty much think Trump wants to end American democracy and install himself as dictator-for-life like his hero, Vladimir Putin. That affects Canada in a BIG way, so I'm going to do everything I can from here to prevent it.

Plus, I have a lot of friends in the U.S. who are going to be personally affected by this fascist regime, and I want to do everything I can to help them. The hate crimes have started already. America has shown the world its true face, and it wears a Swastika.

[identity profile] ragnarok-08.livejournal.com 2016-11-19 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
Oh jeez X_X;

What is this world coming to?
lynnenne: (angel: into temptation)

[personal profile] lynnenne 2016-11-19 04:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I DO NOT WANT THIS AU.

[identity profile] cynthia2015.livejournal.com 2016-11-19 04:17 am (UTC)(link)

Sometimes the truth can be stranger than fiction.

I know I didn't agree with what happened but now Donald Trump has A LOT to live up too.

[identity profile] cynthia2015.livejournal.com 2016-11-19 02:17 pm (UTC)(link)

It is kind of like the twilight zone I suppose.

What is important to note that its the people who voted him in and he said what he knew would win those votes. Bizarre strategy as it was.

The aftermath of being elected is what he has to worry about now.

No point in being too upset. If he is serious about making America great again, then he needs support in doing that.

However if he alienates certain people than thats going to make things difficult.
Time will tell.

[identity profile] cynthia2015.livejournal.com 2016-11-20 07:01 pm (UTC)(link)

What I'm saying is that its going to be very hard for Donald Trump to live up to all the demands he so "eloquently" said he'd achieve.

If he were to follow through with all the racial, cultured or discriminatory views, than his going to obviously make things worse.

I really don't like this situation but I also don't like the rioting against Trump either.

Its all a mess. I just want Donald Trump to learn to be a better person from all of this!*overwhelmed*

Personally I'm just trying to pass my final assessments.*stressed*

[identity profile] angearia.livejournal.com 2016-11-19 04:48 am (UTC)(link)
Every person bending over backwards to ~normalize Trump has so disappointed me.

Some good news:

+ The ACLU published a full page NY Times ad calling on the president-elect to walk back his campaign promises.

+ Nonprofits Opposed to Trump’s Ideology See a Surge in Donations

the ONTD crowd are NOT happy

To be fair, they never are happy. Otherwise they wouldn't be on ONTD.
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[personal profile] sea_thoughts 2016-11-19 10:56 am (UTC)(link)
The petition has over 10,000 signatures now. :)