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Finally managed to finish watching this week... A delight from start to finish. Spoilery thoughts beneath the cut.

First of all - Jenna Coleman is an outstanding actor. She carried this series seemingly effortlessly, and quite simply *was* Victoria. And we watched as Victoria grew up before our eyes - learning every step of the way, but with that iron will in clear evidence in that tiny frame.

What made it especially interesting were the gender dynamics. Victoria had power, yes, but there were people ready and plotting to take it off her at every opportunity. She was too young, too irrational, etc. etc. Just a young girl. When she fights for her ladies-in-waiting, refusing to part with any of them, she describes it as being at war, and thus she cannot do without them. Her choice of words is questioned, and she replies to the Duke of Wellington that with all due respect, he's not a young woman.

She fights every step of the way, and she wins. I felt like cheering. (Not that she doesn't make missteps.)

Also the power struggle between Lehzen & Penge! <3

I feel like I should say something about Lord M, but I'm not sure what. It's so rare to come across such thoroughly decent people who do the right thing, even if it hurts them, that it's always a surprise (even if you know that's how the story goes). Also appreciated all the digs at the Tories. Because I'm shallow like that.

Then there is her mother... And darn, their power play was fascinating and complex and sort of terrible and it's no wonder that she was deeply ambivalent about having children herself. (Also MOTHER-DAUGHTER relationship, not father/son.)

And then Albert...

Albert

Socially awkward, but so earnest it was almost painful. Also extremely cutting, and the flirting/arguments at the start of their relationship was like bloody catnip. And that piano duet!! And the aftermath...

Albert: "You could improve your piano playing if you practised for an hour a day."
Victoria: "I'm a Queen. I don't have time for that."
Albert: But you have time for playing cards..."

Impish Girl's comment: "Savage!!!"

Oh and the ballroom scene where she gives him a flower and he cuts a hole in his shirt by his heart because he has nowhere to put it, actually happened. No wonder they were the love story of the century... (Also, so pretty!)

But of course the gender stuff didn't stop. Albert struggling to find his place, relegated to an essentially female role ("Why do you need your own money?" "Why do you want to interfere so much in running the country, I'm fine, I don't need your help..." "Just wait until your first child is born, then everything will change.") was one of the things I enjoyed especially. (Also seeing poor Victoria having her eyes opened to all the infidelity - and feeling that fear herself. The Queen of England, and yet how could she be sure her husband wouldn't go have an affair?)

Oh! And the visit to the brothel. He brought pen & paper and just asked for information. I don't know if this happened, but I hope it did. It's beyond endearing. <3

And then the early marriage, and the little arguments that inevitably arise, things that seems small, but not if you're living them... And oh, Sir Robert Peel. So many great touches.

The flip side was the life portrayed below stairs. I loved seeing both, and of course especially Nancy's story, the mirror to Victoria's. The girl with the 'dark past', who found love, but dared not pursue it, since the price she might pay (her freedom) was too much. It was heartbreaking, and sobering.

And now I'm looking forward to seeing how The Crown tackles the same story/issues, but a century later...

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Date: 6 November 2016 05:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kerkevik-2014.livejournal.com
I shall refrain from my usual 'Prince Albert' jokes. My definitive actor in the role was in the seventies ( I think it was the seventies) was Robert Hardy - just checked and here's the cast.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072925/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast

Best version of Victoria's story ever made.

kerk

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Date: 6 November 2016 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kerkevik-2014.livejournal.com
I have all the eps on my hard drive. If they're not still on YouTube, I'll try an dput them on a memory stick for you.

Two more fics to go; kinda enjoying working this hard (not that my brother-in-law would have called it that) :-)

kerk

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Date: 6 November 2016 05:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sea_thoughts
she replies to I-forget-his-name

Just some nobody called the Duke of Wellington ;)

Lord M was heartbreaking but amazing. I can't remember the last time I saw an older man turn a young woman down for her own good.

It's nice to see some appreciation for Albert, though. Everybody seems to have gone mad over Lord M instead.

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Date: 7 November 2016 12:59 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sea_thoughts
He was awkward but sincere. And I died at the note-taking in a brothel. What a Virgo. XD

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Date: 6 November 2016 11:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ragnarok-08.livejournal.com
Victoria sounds pretty great :)

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Date: 7 November 2016 01:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eaweek.livejournal.com
I really want to see The Crown. Mom has Netflix; might be time to pay her a visit. ; )

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Date: 7 November 2016 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] verdande-mi.livejournal.com
I don't have anything to add, but yes to all of this :D

I saw the Crown over the weekend...and it didn't grabbed in the same way as Victoria did to begin with, but by episode 4 I felt the story and storytelling picked up and I was so engrossed till the final episode. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts about it :)

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Date: 8 November 2016 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] verdande-mi.livejournal.com
I have feeling it is just me really. I don't think slow is right word. I think perhaps it is just because my expectations were high and the fact that I am impatient, I wanted to enthralled from the start and though I found it well made and the story well-told and fascinating it took a little while for me to really love it.

Why is life so busy is indeed?

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Date: 7 November 2016 10:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com
Darn it, I need to see this!

*HUGS*

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