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The bad thing is, I watch any given Doctor and they are the best ever. So...best ever Doctor. All of them!

*HUGS*

No, the answer is always Eleven.

Not that I don't love all the rest! ;)

Well, I must say I agree with you ~~like my icons don't give THAT away~~, but I'm always afraid to say so. The Ten!Lovers might lynch me. Yes, I'm a fraidy cat, lol!!

They are awesome! Top is Eleven (yeah, he always will be), closely followed by Eight, Seven and Four. Special love for Six because...well...he's Six!

*Laughs*

Ten is my broken little doll, and I have endless meta to prove my love. Heck, he has his own tag.

But Eleventy is MY Doctor, and I would like to see anyone try to tell me to change 'MY' Doctor... >:)

They are awesome! Top is Eleven (yeah, he always will be), closely followed by Eight, Seven and Four. Special love for Six because...well...he's Six!
Eleven, then.. Seven, and somewhere off the scale because he doesn't fit, Ten. And Six (although I've never seen an episode) just because Colin Baker is awesome & people don't give Six enough love.

Hee!! Well, I have an Eight tag, so I can't say anything. Loved Ten, but he never really did it for me. *Ducks behind ElJay*

Hee!! Never will...just got quiet about it, because some folks are unreasonable and nasty (not what the Doctor would love to see at all!!) and then before you know it internets implode...ugh. So I write for him, have five thousand icons, most of my wallpapers are of Eleventy and he is THE Doctor in my house. But then I fel guilty over Twelve and Three and well...so I say they are ALL my Doctor. But I definitely have my favs.

And yeah, Colin Baker is MARVELOUS and should have all the Love!

Hee!! Well, I have an Eight tag, so I can't say anything.
Perfectly valid!

Loved Ten, but he never really did it for me. *Ducks behind ElJay*
If you like Tragic Heroes, he's perfect. If you're not so keen... He may not be all that. Different strokes.

But then I fel guilty over Twelve and Three and well...so I say they are ALL my Doctor. But I definitely have my favs.
LOL. And anyway, who can argue over subjective emotions???

And yeah, Colin Baker is MARVELOUS and should have all the Love!
<3

As

a_phoenixdragon said, and paraphrasing the Brigadier before her, “Splendid Doctors. All of them.”

Did you make that icon especially?

I made it specially for an earlier occasion, though as my answer might be “The answer is always Four”, it seems particularly appropriate to this conversation...

DOCTOR: Have you ever seen Mary Poppins?
KAZRAN: No.
DOCTOR: Good. Because that comparison would've been rubbish. Fish in the fog. Fish in the clouds. How do people ever get bored? How did boredom even get invented?

*points to icon*

:)

::::waves madly:::: I would love to give you my opinion, but... "my" classic Doctor was #5 so I only have a passing knowledge of 1-4. A little better on #3 but haven't seen those eps more than once.

I found the show on our local public tv station and fell in love; one of my coworkers at the time had been a giant Tom Baker fan and had knit her own K-9, so I've seen all of his eps but never warmed to him as I did to Peter Davison. I even bought the books. :) And what did I see last week while binge watching Miranda? Peter Davison as her old French teacher! Oh, be still my heart....

And may I say the only thing that's keeping me upright as I stay on top of Brexit is Tom Ellis.

Hiiiiiiiii!!!

*tacklehug*

It's been forever!!

"my" classic Doctor was #5 so I only have a passing knowledge of 1-4.
I haven't seen any Five, but I think I'd like him. Four is mad, but Five sounds such an earnest sweetheart. <3

And what did I see last week while binge watching Miranda? Peter Davison as her old French teacher! Oh, be still my heart....
Good old British TV! :)

And may I say the only thing that's keeping me upright as I stay on top of Brexit is Tom Ellis.
He's been on Doctor Who too!!! :D

The sweetness was precisely why I fell for Five. Looking back on it, that might be why why he was far from the best Doctor. But he's mine, dammit!

Four, Nine, Ten and Twelve make me palm-sweaty nervous; if our couch was in front of the TV I'd be hiding behind it not for fear of the monsters, but for fear of them.

I forgot that Ellis was Martha Jones' fiancé for five minutes. Might be time to dig that episode out of my 9 & 10 disks....

The sweetness was precisely why I fell for Five. Looking back on it, that might be why why he was far from the best Doctor. But he's mine, dammit!
And that's what matters!!! I haven't seen any Five, but I'm predisposed to liking him. <3

Four, Nine, Ten and Twelve make me palm-sweaty nervous; if our couch was in front of the TV I'd be hiding behind it not for fear of the monsters, but for fear of them.
Interesting! For different reasons I presume? (PLEASE GO IN LOTS OF DETAIL!!)

I forgot that Ellis was Martha Jones' fiancé for five minutes. Might be time to dig that episode out of my 9 & 10 disks....
It's the first place I ever saw him, so I always associate him with that...

Five sounds such an earnest sweetheart.

Five is actually really sarcastic, but he smiles so nicely people tend to get misled. He is, however, really good at putting up with companions who want to kill him, which some later Doctors would have been crap at.

In answer to your questions, those are all good eps, although I am increasingly turned off by the unfortunate racist pseudo-science in Tomb of the Cybermen, but Two is always very awesome. My favourite Two eps are probably things that are missing that have Polly and Ben, Web of Fear, Enemy of the World (which is much better about not being racist), The Mind Robber, The Invasion, and The War Games. (Everyone says that last one is too long, but they are wrong. There are far more ploddy and dull four parters out there. War Games is excellent and then hangs around a bit because they know we can't bear to part with the adorableness of Jamie-Zoe-Two and then leaps into game-changing revelations and HEARTBREAK FOREVER.

City of Death is the wittiest and has Julian Glover. I hope you had fun with it and weren't disappointed because of high expectations!

However, out of those three, my favourite is Inferno. I have a huge love for S7 (the proper season 7, not the new one, although I like that one more than most people seem to), and Inferno is my favourite bit of S7. "So free will is not an illusion after all." And the whole world ends this time. But then I am one of the few people who maintain that Ambassadors of Death isn't boring, so what do I know? (And I ship Brig/Liz a lot, because they are awesome. There was one time I kept writing S7 fic that didn't bother having the Doctor in. I'm still slightly annoyed that he turned up in Spearhead in Space, just when the Brig and Liz were being Mulder and Scully 20 years early.) Later UNIT stuff is a lot of fun, but S7 is its own thing, and very satisfying to watch.

Five is actually really sarcastic, but he smiles so nicely people tend to get misled.
Sounds like me! >:) And then people get confused by my sense of humour.

although I am increasingly turned off by the unfortunate racist pseudo-science in Tomb of the Cybermen
I deliberately tried to switch off that part of my brain. Like, THIS IS REALLY OLD! *twitch*

Everyone says that last one is too long, but they are wrong. There are far more ploddy and dull four parters out there. War Games is excellent and then hangs around a bit because they know we can't bear to part with the adorableness of Jamie-Zoe-Two and then leaps into game-changing revelations and HEARTBREAK FOREVER.
If I come across it, I shall certainly watch it!

City of Death is the wittiest and has Julian Glover. I hope you had fun with it and weren't disappointed because of high expectations!
I think I had heard about half the dialogue already in quotes, so it was more a case of putting it in context...

However, out of those three, my favourite is Inferno. I have a huge love for S7 (the proper season 7, not the new one, although I like that one more than most people seem to), and Inferno is my favourite bit of S7. "So free will is not an illusion after all." And the whole world ends this time.
See I heard a lot of differing opinions, but (apart from being slow in the way Classic Who always is, because the structure was so different), I rather liked it, yes. :)

Later UNIT stuff is a lot of fun, but S7 is its own thing, and very satisfying to watch.
Duly noted.

I deliberately tried to switch off that part of my brain. Like, THIS IS REALLY OLD! *twitch*

I have to do that a lot lately, but for some reason I found that worse than most of the inevitable stereotypes and blackface - I think because of the whole thing with Kit Pedler being a scientist and that being such an unpleasant bit of 60s pseudo-science that was seen as being crap and racist at the time, let alone later, whereas bad as the other stuff was it was often parodying films or teh sheer desperation of production. But, yeah, there's too much good stuff in Tomb to let that spoil things like Two and Victoria's wonderful conversation in the middle - and Two being at his most devious. But Kit Pedler and Gerry Davis efforts do tend to be a bit worse on the whole racism/sexism thing than other 60s DW writers - although certainly no worse than most 60s SF, my goodness...

See I heard a lot of differing opinions, but (apart from being slow in the way Classic Who always is, because the structure was so different), I rather liked it, yes. :)

I have so much to say about Inferno - it's by far the most meta THree ep, so I love it above all other Three eps - but I have no spoons or coherent thoughts, so I'll just say again that I love it!

Some people find S7 hard to take because of the more serious atmosphere and the three seven-parters. For some reason I don't mind the seven parters here. I think there's just this particular vibe of three competent people saving the world from aliens and having ethical dilemmas that they disagree about it & it's just a great vibe to have in DW for a change. The rest of Pertwee is a lot of fun - people don't talk about the UNIT family for nothing and Katy Manning's Jo is adorable and far, far more useful than people claim, but with the family vibe inevitably comes a little more cosiness - the Brig and the Doctor argue for the lols, not because they disagree over matters of genocide. Liz is brilliant and I also like what it says about the Brig that, told to find the best all rounder in the country for his scientific advisor, he chooses Liz Shaw. So, I have S7 feelings, which is odd, because mostly I love the quirkiness and unexpected DW of the 60s and 80s where you don't know what on earth sort of story you might get next time, instead of being pretty sure there'll be an alien invasion again!

But Kit Pedler and Gerry Davis efforts do tend to be a bit worse on the whole racism/sexism thing than other 60s DW writers - although certainly no worse than most 60s SF, my goodness...
It's a low bar. But what can you do...

I have so much to say about Inferno - it's by far the most meta THree ep, so I love it above all other Three eps - but I have no spoons or coherent thoughts, so I'll just say again that I love it!
Also a valid response! <3

I think there's just this particular vibe of three competent people saving the world from aliens and having ethical dilemmas that they disagree about it & it's just a great vibe to have in DW for a change.
*nods* I love competent people.

Liz is brilliant and I also like what it says about the Brig that, told to find the best all rounder in the country for his scientific advisor, he chooses Liz Shaw.
This.

So, I have S7 feelings, which is odd, because mostly I love the quirkiness and unexpected DW of the 60s and 80s where you don't know what on earth sort of story you might get next time, instead of being pretty sure there'll be an alien invasion again!
LOL. I'm still very much feeling my way through Classic Who through the process of watching what I have access to. Which is random.

I was just thinking - I don't know if you'd want to (because obviously watching Classic Who is something you need to make time for) but if you do I've lent DVDs in the post to flisters before, and I have rather a large Classic Who collection. (If you package the DVDs with a bit of card, you can easily do two per ordinary envelope, or more if I have some large stamps, without either of us having to take trips to the PO! I am absolutely fine with the risk - the DW DVDs are way more replaceable than other things I've sent & I get very fed up, being ill, of not being able to do things for other people, so I'm entirely serious & also because of being ill can't seem to watch Who much for some weird reason, so there'd be no special hurry to get them back or tears this end if anything happened to one.)

Anyway, if you would like that, then PM me your address and a list of stories you'd be most interested in seeing - or if you just want me to send some I like, let me know which ones you've seen. I do have some gaps in 1-4 (especially in Three and Two) but it's a complete collection from 5-7 & I should be able to send you from two-six serials (depending on stamps, envelopes and whether any of them are on two discs or not.) I have found DW episodes that were a bit dull or not so much my favourites - but none that weren't at least a bit delightful, because that's DW and all the Doctors are wonderful. So if you'd like that, don't hesitate to PM me - I'm entirely serious and love to spread the Classic Who love and have no one round here who wouldn't faint with horror if I tried! ;-)

PS. I'm a repressed librarian - I exist to lend! :lol:

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That's so kind!!

And I might just take you up on that. Hmmmm. I shall go away and have a think, although my first thought it 'YAY I CAN WATCH ALL OF SEVEN!!' (I wrote an essay on Season 25, and adored Seven, even from watching it online in rather crappy condition).

Do you have any recommendations? I guess I really ought to make a list of what I've watched...

So I think I'll get back to you once I'm awake! But thank you. :D

You know that Seven is my favourite too, so if you want all the Seven, I'll be happy to oblige. And if it works out fine, no reason we can't do it again some time. :-)

And have your think & either send some specific requests - or a list of what you've seen & let me choose some favourites if you'd rather! Whatever you'd prefer is fine by me. If you want to take a run of a few eps in order, or meet as many new-to-you companions and Doctors as you want, or request some fan favourites or fan turkeys just to see - whatever!

As I said, I don't have a complete collection, but the gaps are relatively few, and probably mostly in Three (and One - I'm not quite sure why that is, because I love One a lot. I think I just had the videos back in the day and didn't replace some of them as quickly, I'm not sure).

Did you still want to do this? Don't worry if not, or if another time, but just wondered as you never did reply & I know rl gets hectic!

Sorry - I put a flag in it, but have been pondering. We'll be going on holiday shortly, so I might wait until we get back? Like August/September time? It'll be nice to have something to watch as it gets darker...

If that's OK?

Of course! Just give me a shout when it suits you. I just wasn't sure if you'd forgotten or didn't want to after all, so just thought I'd ask. I hope you have good hols! :-)

Thank you!

And I'm glad you reminded me, because I've been meaning to get back to you and then ~life...

I know you are avoiding news - but this is the best news of the day.

Well, that's certainly different!!

They are all My Doctor, because I am OLD, but Four probably just edges it for me, and City of Death is certainly one of my all-time favourites - Douglas Adams! John Cleese and Eleanor Bron! Fabulous storyline that makes sense.

OTOH, I can be equally vocal on behalf of Two, Five and Six, as well as Ten and Twelve. (Matt's a sweetie, but doesn't quite cut it for me. Sorry.)

Fabulous storyline that makes sense.
... I hadn't thought of it that way. And I guess compared to the rest of Dr Who it's true! :)

OTOH, I can be equally vocal on behalf of Two, Five and Six, as well as Ten and Twelve. (Matt's a sweetie, but doesn't quite cut it for me. Sorry.)
Well, it'd be boring if we were all the same. (Although obviously you are wrong. *g*)

Ooooh- what did you think of 'Inferno'? :D It's such a grim story, but it's still one of my top favorite 3rd Doctor serials.

Very very well done parallel world scenario. I'd heard conflicting reports, but I liked it. :)

Threeeeeee. Because reasons. Largely, I suspect, involving James Bond, silly seventies british moustaches, and Brig/Liz.

Those are all good reasons.

Brig/Liz!! ♥ (Sorry, I got excited. There seem to be so few of us about these days! I love them to pieces any way you like.)

I think that Two, Four, and Four are good Doctors in their own right :)

Of course!

I watched Tomb of the Cybermen some years ago, so I don't remember it all, but I remember I liked it. It was my first Two serial and I loved his personality and also Jamie, their friendship is so good! I don't like Cybermen very much, but curiously I really enjoyed them in this one. It was gripping, and rhe added touch of everything being an archaeological exploration just made it even more interesting for me!

I watched Tomb of the Cybermen some years ago, so I don't remember it all, but I remember I liked it
It's one of the classic episodes for a reason. It's interesting, because I recognised several bits of dialogue, and it's lovely to put them in context. Also stylistically it's very neat. Loved the actual tombs themselves.

I don't like Cybermen very much, but curiously I really enjoyed them in this one. It was gripping, and rhe added touch of everything being an archaeological exploration just made it even more interesting for me!
I think it might be because of how it was more a 'waking something terrible from slumber' rather than 'being attacked by big army'?

CLASSIC!WHO! ♥ Classics are awesome—and that's some excellent episodes right there! (Pssst—if you want free classics and don't mind watching online, Dailymotion is the best thing ever.)

I can never quite point at a favourite Doctor, but as I said—awesomeness. I have a particular fondness for Inferno though, and it has Liz ♥

CLASSIC!WHO! ♥ Classics are awesome—and that's some excellent episodes right there!
I been waiting for you, considering your own amazing viewing...

Pssst—if you want free classics and don't mind watching online, Dailymotion is the best thing ever.
And I know of Daily Motion (it's how I watched Season 25 some years ago), but my computer desperately needs updating, so watching online is... not the best. Plus I'd be branded even more anti-social than I already am.

I can never quite point at a favourite Doctor
It's the strangest thing. I'm not even sure 'favourite' is the right word. I just know that Eleven is 'my' Doctor. And it doesn't mean that I dislike Twelve in any way shape of form, but Eleven just hits a button none of the others do. However, the more the merrier!

but as I said—awesomeness. I have a particular fondness for Inferno though, and it has Liz ♥
♥

I don't know if "amazing" is the word for it but I eventually made my way through it all, so yay :)

Ahhh. I get you, Dailymotion usually works very smoothly on a computer that… runs smoothly in the first place, but on my old computer too, it was just very glitching. And of course sharing is the best way :)

I feel the same but I know exactly why in my case—shipping involves extra obsessing for me, so I just kind of see Eleven through River's eyes? XD Though Twelve got a big upgrade after the Christmas special too ;)

Oh, and I'm watching Torchwood now, too!

so I just kind of see Eleven through River's eyes? XD
An excellent way to view him!

And I hope you enjoy Torchwood. (Although S4 is not worth your time. Seriously, if I could un-watch it, I would.)

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