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Well Trump is either Joffrey Baratheon, or that guy who had his own daughter burned on a stake, just to get a bit more power from someone or something he didn't believe in

Sanders is probably Jon Snow.

Not sure on the other two.

Well Trump is either Joffrey Baratheon, or that guy who had his own daughter burned on a stake, just to get a bit more power from someone or something he didn't believe in
No Joffrey is a better fit. Incest & all...

Sanders is probably Jon Snow.
Some kind of Stark, definitely.

Not sure on the other two.
Also I've only read the first three books, and that was two years ago, so I'm not good at remembering them all.

OMG, those pictures were funny!! And how much did I love that Bernie pic?!? *Grins*

As little as I know about GoT, those seem pretty accurate, actually. :D

*HUGS*

My pleasure! Glad I raised a smile! :D

And Drumpf as Joffrey should be a meme... *ponders*

Those pics are just priceless XDD

:D

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Cruz is Reece Bolton.

You mean Roose? (I had to go look him up... I had thought of him, but couldn't remember his name.)

I presume you've seen the Zodiac Killer meme?

Yup. Daddy Bolton.

Also yep.

Cold-hearted killer... I should probably feel bad, but considering Ted Cruz's politics - I don't!

I dunno, I'd say he's Stannis. Completely uncharismatic, thinks he's earned the right to the throne simply by existing, practices a religion that seems to only be about stepping on others...

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Hmmmm.

But Stannis wouldn't be a terrible king. I mean, would you compare Stannis to bone cancer? Context

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Eh. He started a devastating war over his own vanity, made a murderous fanatic his closest advisor, and burned his own daughter at the stake knowing it would mean he wouldn't have an heir for the throne he was fighting for. I'll grant you that the competition isn't much better, but I don't see him being a very good king.

And that's a good clip. Though it's hard to satirize an election in which candidate A calls candidate B a child molester... and candidate B then endorses candidate A because hey, we need a president who's not afraid to do things like call people child molesters in order to win the election.

(Ben Carson is Robin Arryn.)

burned his own daughter at the stake
I did not know that!!! (That poor little girl.) I'm not terribly bothered about being spoiled. Esp re. horrible things. I may or may not keep reading, I don't know.

I'll grant you that the competition isn't much better, but I don't see him being a very good king.
Fair point.

and candidate B then endorses candidate A because hey, we need a president who's not afraid to do things like call people child molesters in order to win the election.
I missed that detail. WHAT IS THIS ELECTION?!? I agree with the final line of the article: 'You know, I think there really is something wrong with Dr. Sleepy.'

Dr Sleepy is a fabulous nick name btw.

(Ben Carson is Robin Arryn.)
*sporfle*

Shit, I'm so sorry for spoiling you! I wasn't thinking, I thought you were caught up. FWIW, I think that might be a TV series only thing, the book readers seemed pretty surprised by it. But feel free to hide this thread if you want, I just wasn't thinking in terms of spoilers.

I hadn't even thought of that - hiding it that is.

Might just put a warning in the post. And don't worry, if I cared in any deep or meaningful way, I'd have put a note somewhere saying 'Don't Spoil me!!'

Also, being on Tumblr means that most major plot points are already known to me, so... *shrugs*

Mostly I feel sorry for the girl.

Though it's hard to satirize an election in which candidate A calls candidate B a child molester...

The satire is writing itself. I mean seriously, you know the election has fallen off the cliff into pure political satire when it out does a 1990 Simpson's cartoon that has Donald Trump as President of the US.

Although American Television is certainly trying really hard to satirize it.
Scandal is attempting it. And Good Wife already did it.

Yet, still the two parties, particularly the Republican Party have managed to out-do scripted television series in the absurdity department. The latest -- the Republican Party Officials are trying to figure out a way to rig the election so Trump can't win.

The sad thing is...this isn't really all that new. I've been listening to the musical Alexander Hamilton this afternoon at work, and apparently they had similar problems in the 1700s...

I nominate Tywin Lannister as Trump, Roose Bolton as Cruz, Stannis as Kavisch, Danerys as Clinton, Jon Snow or Rob Stark as Bernie Saunders, and Cersei Lannister as Sarah Palin.

The satire is writing itself. I mean seriously, you know the election has fallen off the cliff into pure political satire when it out does a 1990 Simpson's cartoon that has Donald Trump as President of the US.
Does that make Lisa Hillary Clinton? ;)

The sad thing is...this isn't really all that new. I've been listening to the musical Alexander Hamilton this afternoon at work, and apparently they had similar problems in the 1700s...
Surely things should get BETTER? /rhetorical question.

I nominate Tywin Lannister as Trump, Roose Bolton as Cruz, Stannis as Kavisch, Danerys as Clinton, Jon Snow or Rob Stark as Bernie Saunders, and Cersei Lannister as Sarah Palin.
Pretty much agreed on all, except Tywin Lannister, who has more brains in his left toe than Trump could ever aspire to. No, I'm sticking with the spoilt brat as Trump, since that is how he behaves. (Tywin is many things, but being chronically insecure isn't one of his flaws.)

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I don't know...Trump is actually playing this game brilliantly. I don't think he's stupid. Evil, yes. Soulless definitely. Dumb? No. You don't get as far as he has by being dumb.

The man has strategically played the public and is a marketing genius. (I watched the Apprentice -- it was all about how to market and promote products, not create, market.)

And he's figured out exactly how to play his audience and who his audience is. So, no, don't underestimate him by saying he's dumb. Hitler wasn't dumb either.

The people supporting and endorsing him...are a bit dumb.

So, I stick with my choice, definitely Tywin Lannister. ;-)

And he's figured out exactly how to play his audience and who his audience is. So, no, don't underestimate him by saying he's dumb. Hitler wasn't dumb either.
I agree that he's very good at playing on people and their fears. He knows how to market himself (which is what he's done his whole life), and does it brilliantly.

But Tywin Lannister is stone cold tactician. (From what I remember, at least.) Trump will say whatever gets him the most news coverage.

We have someone similar, except Boris Johnson is genuinely intelligent, and thus does not go out of his way to constantly say how smart he is. (Insecurity, thy name is Trump.)

Here's a typical example - he's the perfect buffoon, and absolutely plays on that. You can't help but like him, even if his policies are often despicable.

Does that make Lisa Hillary Clinton? ;)

I think so, yes. ;-)

Surely things should get BETTER? /rhetorical question.

Hope springs eternal. ;-)

Actually, they have to some degree - women and POC can vote now and are no longer considered property. And recently a bunch of billionaires requested that NY raise the tax percentage on people making above 1 M a year to 9.8 %.

So...progress.

Actually, they have to some degree - women and POC can vote now and are no longer considered property. And recently a bunch of billionaires requested that NY raise the tax percentage on people making above 1 M a year to 9.8 %.
... 9.8% ????? In the UK it's 50%.

(Although that's something that Boris would change.)

Yes, well, keep in mind that the US fought a revolution to be free of the UK's taxation system way back in the 1700s.
(Been listening to the musical Hamilton for the past two days on my ipod. One song has Jefferson upset with Hamilton for attempting to institute a taxation system...that would build infrastructure, etc...and Jefferson responds, if you think people got upset about having their tea taxed, just try to tax our Whiskey.)

The US is a country where about 80% of its immigrant population originally left other countries to avoid taxes.
My great-grandfather fled England for that reason.

Yes, but the immigrants feeling taxation weren't making a lot of money.

And those that do make a lot of money tend to do all kinds of accounting acrobatics to avoid paying them.

In the end, it's the poor people that pay the most, as always.

That was the case back in the 1700s as well. Really no different. Also, can you really say it's all that better in Europe? I've been over there - you have homeless and poor people over there too. ;-)

The US is weird, because it's 50 states individually governed under a federal government, which for the most part stays out of their business. Each state has it's own president aka governor, senate, house, and courts. And each state it's own taxation laws. Over that is Federal taxes.

For example?

I have to pay state, federal, and city taxes. Plus social security (retirement) and medicare. Each is about 3-5% or something like that.

On top of this we have property taxes, sales tax, liquor taxes, and taxes on cigarettes.

There's also a corporate and business tax which businesses have to pay both on federal, local and state level.

So the 9.6% is just for NY State, that would be on top of the city tax and the Federal tax, also property tax -- which is really high.

We don't live in a Utopia (sadly), but we DO have stuff like free health care.

Mind you, if the Tories have their way we'll be much more like you. :(

(I now and again try to wrap my head around how the US works, and then I get a headache and stop.)

Re. homelessness, then it was genuinely getting MUCH MUCH BETTER, but then the Tories were elected and now there are more than ever.

You really can't compare the UK to the US or even our health care systems...because it's akin to comparing a squirrel to an elephant or a banana to an apple.

Our system of government is far too different. Plus, the population size. Immigration policy -- ours is actually more open than the UK in some respects. Laws are completely different. Professional licensing is different. Educational system is completely different.

One's not better than the other, just really different.
I mean, the UK or Britain is a group of islands, the US is this huge continent, plus various islands, and it was a former colony of various European countries that fought over it.

Add to all this - we have racial issues that Europe doesn't quite have. (ie. 100 years of slavery, Europe ended slavery decades before the US. And a Native American population, which European settlers/immigrants tried to exterminate and has been regulated to reservations throughout the States, with their own governing bodies, laws, and rules. They are in effect their own private little countries, free of US taxes or laws within their territories.)

It's impossible. The US and UK don't even speak the English language the same way. (Actually sometimes I wonder if the US is still an English speaking country, today, alone, I heard fifteen languages that weren't English. And I live in a building with a super who is Russian and barely speaks English...with neighbors who barely speak a word of English.
They either speak Russian or Bengali.)

True, we are very different, and in most things comparing stuff we're just too far apart.

Although I'd say that our health care is better (until the Tories completely destroy it of course).

But yeah, culturally we're very different - divided by a common language and all.

Bloom County had Trump running for president back in the 80s. Or rather, Donald Trump's brain transplanted into the body of a stinky cat was running for president. I think I'd actually prefer that.

I'd forgotten that one, but I also forgot about the Simpsons until Facebook reminded me of it.

Right now, I'm sort of hoping space aliens invade us, which would take care of the problem. Unless of course Trump is a space alien...which would actually explain a lot.

Oh man. I didn't know that. *runs away to look it up*

LOL at the Bernie picture.

Ha! Those pics were hilarious - especially the ones with the politicians playing with children, differences in eating hot dogs, names, and the comparison of scandals.

Stacey

Glad you liked. :)

And it just made me laugh. The scandals especially.

"I DID NOT SPEND £10,000 ON EXTRA BISCUITS"

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

IKR? You can't beat Eric Pickles...

Love the British/American differences . . .

Also am totally in love with this idea: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/03/2016-elections-al-franken-vice-president-213756

In your GoT analogy he would, of course, be Tyrion.

ETA: also Cruz is totally Stannis. That's the only one I'm sure of. Fanatical. Unliked. Unbending. Getting annoyed that no one recognizes his legitimacy. He has some quote about how nobody wants to back him but you know exactly what you're getting with him (in comparison to Trump).

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Love the British/American differences . . .
Of course, the main thing now would be that you have Trump, and we have Boris (Johnson).

In your GoT analogy he would, of course, be Tyrion.
I have only heard his name in passing, but anyone who authors a book called 'Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot' is someone I like on principle.

also Cruz is totally Stannis. That's the only one I'm sure of. Fanatical. Unliked. Unbending.
Yes. That works, thank you. For some reason I had him down as Bolton, but then it's two years since I read the books last.

Of course, the main thing now would be that you have Trump, and we have Boris (Johnson).
All I know about him is his one Top Gear appearance, but he seemed to have a nimble head on his shoulders. Also I can't believe anybody is actually called Boris.

I have only heard his name in passing, but anyone who authors a book called 'Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot' is someone I like on principle.
Liberal firebrand comedian who ran for Senate and proceeded to surprise everybody by actually being good at it.

They link this towards the end of the article: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeipFdLiTro&feature=youtu.be

I give you Boris:

Fun, but 100% Tory. Rather worrying that he could be our next Prime Minister. Plays the buffoon, but is very smart. Makes puns in Latin etc.

Liberal firebrand comedian who ran for Senate and proceeded to surprise everybody by actually being good at it.
That sounds like a sitcom. Will check out link, ta! :)

Rather worrying that he could be our next Prime Minister.
Haha. IDK, after eight years of W and now the spectre of Trump, I find it hard to be scared of conservatives on the basis of policy alone. I realize that 'am I scared that they are going to nuke Russia on a whim?' is a low bar when it comes to political acceptability, but here we are.

That sounds like a sitcom.
Lol. Very true. And I left out the part where he's from Minnesota, which is just the cherry on the sundae. (Did I tell you my joke about my sister's law school? She went to the University of Minnesota. We decided that "Minnesota Law" sounded like a 90's sitcom about an eccentric law firm that works out of a house boat on a lake. Naturally I bought a t-shirt when I went out to visit her.)

IDK, after eight years of W and now the spectre of Trump, I find it hard to be scared of conservatives on the basis of policy alone.
Well, it's stuff like this. :(

(Sorry to be a downer)

Naturally I bought a t-shirt when I went out to visit her.
Nice!

(Sorry to be a downer)
It makes me feel horribly jaded that I'm not even surprised by this.

Oh, no one's surprised, we always knew the Tories were evil. :(

(British ppl don't have that enthusiasm for politics that Americans have. But then we have no Obamas either.)

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