even if it was only that one man and the Torchwood team wasn't objectifying her Slightl confused as to which man you're talking about? Or do you mean the Japanese scientist?
Good point with the shoes, by the way. Some would argue that the costume was an imagination about how the inside of the cyber shell might have look line but the shoes are without doubts a proof that it was all about making her sexy. I wonder what they were thinking. Like - why heels? Cybermen would have no concept of that sort of aesthetic.
I couldn't believe they've all actually said what you've kindly written down so I watched it myself. Yeah, I had to rewind a lot...
On the guys defense, Chris said Davies presented him the story, and at the end he added, "oh, and there's a Cybergirl in the basement", so I believe the emotional touch was always their top interest. Yes, he's the only one not talking about her being sexy, so it looks like his interest was story-led. (Wish I had the shooting script.)
Exactly. Just imagine a man in a cyberoutfit that hardly covers his man parts and let him walk like that for the entire episode.I'm sure no one would think that would be a good idea. As sea_thoughts points out below, it also sidelined the body horror aspect of cyber men - Danny, when we saw him remove his mask, after his conversion, looked horrible. There was none of that with Lisa - although the actress did what she could - I think the intention was probably there, but the outfit worked against her, rather than with.
I heard some people saying it wasn't that bad, but I've heard people saying they disliked Children On Earth so I suppose there's the whole range of opinions about everything :) I can understand people not liking Children of Earth... The best way of describing it is still this quote from Angel:
ILLYRIA: Your world is so small. And yet you box yourselves in rooms even smaller. You shut yourselves inside... in rooms, in routines. WESLEY: There are things worse than walls. Terrible... and beautiful. If we look at them for too long they will burn right through us. Truths we couldn't bear. Not every day.
It's probably the best thing RTD has ever written, but it also doesn't shy away from unbelievably painful truths. In that way it's the complete opposite of Cyberwoman.
Miracle Day, on the other hand, is just rubbish. A few good ideas, but they were wasted. Do not go near.
Twelve's "Sometimes I miss Amy" in 8x01 To be fair, that was mostly a dig at how VERY short Clara is.
However, let me add that I don't blame him for all sexist elements on the show He's also a troll. And he enjoys the interplay between the sexes - see Coupling etc. And he got Matt Smith to strip down quite regularly. ;)
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Slightl confused as to which man you're talking about? Or do you mean the Japanese scientist?
Good point with the shoes, by the way. Some would argue that the costume was an imagination about how the inside of the cyber shell might have look line but the shoes are without doubts a proof that it was all about making her sexy.
I wonder what they were thinking. Like - why heels? Cybermen would have no concept of that sort of aesthetic.
I couldn't believe they've all actually said what you've kindly written down so I watched it myself.
Yeah, I had to rewind a lot...
On the guys defense, Chris said Davies presented him the story, and at the end he added, "oh, and there's a Cybergirl in the basement", so I believe the emotional touch was always their top interest.
Yes, he's the only one not talking about her being sexy, so it looks like his interest was story-led. (Wish I had the shooting script.)
Exactly. Just imagine a man in a cyberoutfit that hardly covers his man parts and let him walk like that for the entire episode.I'm sure no one would think that would be a good idea.
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I heard some people saying it wasn't that bad, but I've heard people saying they disliked Children On Earth so I suppose there's the whole range of opinions about everything :)
I can understand people not liking Children of Earth... The best way of describing it is still this quote from Angel:
ILLYRIA: Your world is so small. And yet you box yourselves in rooms even smaller. You shut yourselves inside... in rooms, in routines.
WESLEY: There are things worse than walls. Terrible... and beautiful. If we look at them for too long they will burn right through us. Truths we couldn't bear. Not every day.
It's probably the best thing RTD has ever written, but it also doesn't shy away from unbelievably painful truths. In that way it's the complete opposite of Cyberwoman.
Miracle Day, on the other hand, is just rubbish. A few good ideas, but they were wasted. Do not go near.
Twelve's "Sometimes I miss Amy" in 8x01
To be fair, that was mostly a dig at how VERY short Clara is.
However, let me add that I don't blame him for all sexist elements on the show
He's also a troll. And he enjoys the interplay between the sexes - see Coupling etc. And he got Matt Smith to strip down quite regularly. ;)