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DW 8.11. Dark Water.
Canonnical Genderswap Master-Doctor kiss in Tomb of the Cyberman The Invasion mash-up. Wibble.
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parattiClara’s arc and development have been off the scale. Can anyone imagine Rose, Martha or Donna on that volcano? No, their focus was squarely on the Doctor. Mind you, of course Clara started out that way too. From Asylum to Time of the Doctor, the Doctor was her focus. Her story could have ended with Name of the Doctor and her self-sacrifice, and it would have been perfectly satisfactory. (Well, serviceable at least.) But Moffat has taken her much, much further. This season the development has been Clara’s, not the Doctor’s. And she has grown and learned and - quite literally - become the Doctor… She has held the fate of the world in her hands more than once, has balked and yet returned.
Here we see the consequences.
That whole scene in the kitchen - 'It was boring' and 'I am owed' - they all show how far she's come from the person she was, back in Bells of St John. And her choices from then on were in many ways her own ‘Waters of Mars’ - ‘My will be done!’ What is also noteworthy is how she went about it. The Ponds, any of them, generally adopted an ‘unstoppable force/immovable object’ strategy. (And the Doctor stopped.) But Clara manipulates. Clara uses the Doctor’s own methods against him. It doesn’t matter that she’s unsuccessful, it’s the fact that we see how she now thinks - which is like him. (Much like the Doctor himself is outwitted later by Missy.) Clara has learned, and she has learned well.
And this is where it gets properly interesting. The Master has always been a dark mirror for the Doctor. And the companion - often - the one that saves the day. (Examples include Martha in Last of the Time Lords and Jo in The Daemons - Jo of course saving the world with LOVE. <3) But Clara, now, is in an fascinating position - she mirrors both of them. I have previously gone on about how she has been monster’d from the beginning, and we have had both the Doctor and Missy call her ‘My Clara’. So Clara is in the middle, mirroring both of them. (Many thought Missy would turn out to be an evil Clara echo, esp given her outfit.) It would not surprise me in the least for Clara to be caught in the middle between them both in the final part, having to choose… And the choice not being easy.
The simplest one would be having to choose between Danny and saving the world. In Moffat Who these choices tend to end up being false binaries - see anything from The Beast Below to Day of the Doctor - but even so I can see Clara being tempted by Missy if there is a chance to save Danny. (‘I’d do it again!’) This is of course a simple projection from the ‘facts’ as we now see them, and there will be at least twenty three twists before then, I’m sure.
There is also the delightful ‘Clara Oswald has never existed’ line which hints at all kinds of possibilities, yet might just be Clara lying her little head off to get out of a sticky situation.
Now about those keys. ‘Of course’, people have said, ‘the Doctor can open his TARDIS merely by snapping his fingers, so the whole standoff is a little pointless from that angle. It doesn’t take away from a fantastic scene though.’ I think there is more going on. After all, the cloister bell rings. And Clara sets this up very carefully, and she knows what she is doing. Since she can open the TARDIS with a snap of her fingers, she must know something about the keys that we don’t. Could the keys be a little like horcruxes, maybe? After all, the Doctor can summon the TARDIS from elsewhere, his key glows when the TARDIS has finished 'redecorating' in Eleventh Hour... So I'm sure there's more to those keys than we know. And considering how much time they spend on it, it could look very much like stealth set-up for a later plot point. After all, I believe we're supposed to find out why the TARDIS disliked Clara...
ETA: Meant to include this: Please observe this wonderful reference to River Song.
Also the fact that the whole thing is a dream made me think of this:
ROMEO
And we mean well in going to this mask,
But ’tis no wit to go.
MERCUTIO
Why, may one ask?
ROMEO
I dreamt a dream tonight.
MERCUTIO
And so did I.
ROMEO
Well, what was yours?
MERCUTIO
That dreamers often lie.
ROMEO
In bed asleep while they do dream things true.
MERCUTIO
Oh, then, I see Queen Mab hath been with you.
I wish I’d thought of it after Forest of the Night, but it might still be relevant… Never underestimate the power of dreams.
Plus, there is the old Gallifreyan fairytale - Snow White and the Seven Keys to Doomsday. (Started out as a play in 1974, then became a Big Finish Audio in 2008. I am only familiar with the Brilliant Book version, but even that is excellent!)
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Oh, and about that amazing Doctor/Clara scene, these lines (obviously) stood out:
"Do you really think I care for you so little that betraying me would make a difference?"
"Clara, I'm very sorry, but I am exactly what you deserve."
For me, they made me think of this:
The Doctor knows all about betraying those he loves, and the fact that he is honest enough to admit this is making me very happy indeed. ('Tell me Clara - am I a good man?')
I didn’t think this would be the story we’d pursue (figured he’d ‘get his mojo back’ - and he might still), but this is so much better. Very dark, and very heavy for a family show, yet I admire them for going there. Far too often soldiers are just people with guns, shooting at other people/monsters with guns. It’s loud and bright and oddly sanitised. This drags it down to a human level, and in the process unlocks a lot of Danny’s motivations and reasonings. No wonder that his number one priority, no matter what, are the children in his care. No wonder he knows what he wants from Clara, and isn’t bothered about the rest. No wonder he tries to convince Clara to stop before she ends up doing something similar… (And oh, Kill the Moon.)
Also we have a very interesting gender-role-swapping thing going on. If Danny were female, I am sure everyone would talk about how he’d been ‘fridged’ - and in a sense he has been. He was killed off in order to trigger a particular emotional reaction in Clara. But the flipping goes further. Danny is the one who gets emotionally manipulated, ending up in tears. (And no wonder! Poor Danny.) Clara is the one told to be ‘Sceptical and critical. Remember. Be strong. Even if if breaks your heart.’ One ‘emotional’, one ‘rational’.
So we end up with Clara asking questions of someone she can’t see (essentially someone in a different dimension), trying to establish his identity, which sounds a little familiar… Except there’s a different outcome than in Time of the Doctor. (So far at least.)
Of course, Danny is also ‘our guy’ inside the Nethersphere. And we see how effectively they manage to manipulate people into ‘deleting’ themselves .’The three words’ are a truly horrific concept, yes. But if you want people to get rid of emotions and feelings, what better tool? Danny of course gets a double whammy - both the body horror of being cremated, and the guilt over killing that little boy. People have called the notion offensive, but that is almost the point… If people genuinely believed that the dead could still feel, of course they’d shell out for special tanks & equipment where their dead could be kept comfortable. It just goes to show the level Missy will stoop to.
Now, having just re-watched Deep Breath, it is easy to see how that sets up the theme - the droid using people as spare parts, people being kept in the larder ‘alive’ (both the criminal Vastra catches, and later the Doctor and Clara when they are snatched from the restaurant) - all the clockwork droids (an army, essentially) made from dead people. There are echoes elsewhere in the season (the robots in Sherwood f.ex.) although what I’m mostly reminded of is Bells of St John and the GI. Different reason, but the same principle of snatching people’s ‘souls’ and storing them electronically. Here Danny echoes Clara’s ‘I don’t know where I am!’
Although he’s probably been dead for too long to be ‘safely downloaded’ back into his body… Darn, I don’t want him to be dead dead. Mind you, Rory was killed and erased, and he turned out just fine.
But I’m getting ahead. The episode ends with Danny, his finger hovering over the ‘delete’ button. Yet the boy is reflected in the ipad. Which points to the characters’ choices being more important than the big cyber army...
('I don't think I know who the Doctor is anymore')
CLARA: It's just-
JENNY: What?
CLARA: Nothing. If. If Vastra changed, if she was different, if she wasn't the person that you liked?
VASTRA: I don't like her, ma'am. I love her. And as to different? Well, she's a lizard.
Looking back, then Deep Breath (and the whole season really) has been setting us up for this. Because the Doctor has changed so very drastically. Clara would probably have walked out if it hadn’t been for Eleven’s phone call. And even with that, she has had great difficulty adjusting - just look at their conversation on the beach at the end of Mummy on the Orient Express. She almost sees him as someone completely new that she has to get to know all over again. And he has had to prove that he’s still the same…
In Missy, the Master has changed gender, but the personality is still pretty much intact.
‘The Master is so pleased that the Doctor has worked out what's going on! Everything becomes at least a hundred times more satisfying when the Doctor is around to be audience to his triumph, you see.’
End of Time post by aria <- highly recommended and entertaining
Now there are people complaining about how Missy/Doctor is all heteronormative and why couldn’t we have had Doctor/Master ‘properly’… At which point I shall quote Phil Sandifer, because he has already said it, and said it well:
So, female Master. That’s a female Doctor made basically inevitable, then. There are of course people complaining that it’s heteronormative to have the Master change genders before finally admitting their love of the Doctor. It’s not an unfair point. Although after Davies wrote the most slashable Master ever, simply going one further and having a male Master actually snog the Doctor would probably feel like diminishing returns. If I’m thinking with my writer brain, and being honest, going even gayer after John Simm would have been a bad call.
Dark Water Review <- excellent!
Also there is the fact that we couldn't have BOTH a gender change AND a gay relationship. And since Eleven merrily snogged the face off Rory when he was happy, I'd say that the gender swap - paving the way for a female Doctor - is the better and more progressive choice. Plus we have Vastra/Jenny gaying up the show already. (And I'm sure Moffat would bring back Jack if he could...) But that's a sidebar.
Personally, then I adore it to teeny tiny bits. I might have been a happy flailing mass for all of Missy’s scenes and could happily watch her forever more. Michelle Gomez is a genius and every line out of her mouth is quotable.
Now we’ve had a male/female Doctor/Master before, although that was of course a female Doctor to the Master’s male (The Curse of Fatal Death) and mostly played for laughs. But, it bears remembering that Moffat gave us a female Doctor in 1999! That’s fifteen years ago.
(And like I said previously - it’s beyond delightful that he’s now being accused of cosying up to the feminazis and paving the way for a female Doctor and destroying the show, since everyone knows that he hates women… It’s like the Spike Wars all over again.) (Spike from Buffy the Vampire Slayer, not Spike from Press Gang!)
The whole Missy/Doctor dynamic is fabulous though:
- Every single line she says whilst pretending to be an android.
-The way she takes a moment to just look at him with such an air of taking possession before she snogs him, and the three little nose kisses afterwards.
-The ‘I’ve disabled the lifts’ line, because of course she is twenty steps ahead.
-The way she grabs hold of him - ‘Don’t make a scene, you idiot!’ - and the eye roll when he STILL hasn’t worked out who she is… (And his FACE! Full-blown panic, which is not an emotion we have seen with Twelve before.)
I want to keep her FOREVER. Pretty please Santa Moff?
To quote Michelle Gomez (from this interview):
"So yeah, I suppose she is the sum of all human emotion in just one droplet."
And about the Doctor and what Missy means for him:
MTV: Over the course of this season we’ve seen this new Doctor struggle with his humanity – or his lack of humanity… And all the best villains are, of course, a parallel or opposite for the hero. So is that what’s going on here? Are we getting through Missy what the Doctor has been lacking?
Gomez: Yes! Some people in our lives somehow mirror who we really are, and they are not mirroring the mask that we put on to meet and greet on a daily basis. For a man such as The Doctor, he has this kind of conscience now, asking the bigger questions of, “who am I really?”
We all arrive at that point in our lives, and whether we can really with rigorous honesty find answers that can sit well… There will be demons there that perhaps he hasn’t dealt with, or he’s repressed or he doesn’t feel good about.
Missy just blazes that light on all of the defects of his character. There’s that wonderful feeling you cant bulls–t a bullsh–ter. It’s almost that type of relationship with them of a sibling, or any close friend of yours that knows who you really are at your core… And is able to turn up, and remind you who you really are behind that mask. Missy is his barometer conscience that turns up.
I should write more. But it’s Friday already and Missy reduces me to a puddle of shippy goo. Much like Simm!Master did before her, although moreso, because Missy is done with UST and is going straight for bald honesty. Which I’m hoping will pay off handsomely. And besides, all we need is some throwaway line from her about how he should stop being so reticent as this is hardly new for them, and all the slash anyone has ever wanted will be cemented as canon. And even without that we have a much more stable 'ship retroactively. ‘The Doctor maintains my heart’/’Two hearts, both of them yours’ <- this is hardly something that’s happened overnight.
/o\ SO MUCH THERE! Maybe after Death In Heaven I’ll do a properly huge post with everything and the kitchen sink and a million images… (So many things I’ve not even touched on. Such as the dark water itself… Too much there, Moffat shouldn’t cram his episodes so full of STUFF!)
Which reminds me. I am UNSPOILED for Death in Heaven. To the point where I have not even watched the trailer or the preview clip. (I get like this - a sort of excessive spoiler avoidance.) So please do not post anything at all about the finale. Not even stuff you think ‘everyone’ knows. Chances are, I don’t!
Thank you. :)
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(And I just realised that I meant to ask if I was OK to quote you, although I presume you're fine with it?)
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I had thought that the Cloister Bell when the first key hit the lava was the Doctor controlling the illusion and trying to impress on Clara the seriousness of the situation, but I had forgotten the key glowing after the TARDIS “regenerated” in Eleventh Hour, so could well be more, too.
And even though throwing the keys away is a dream, that might be quite enough for the TARDIS to dislike Clara. And for the TARDIS visual interface in Hide, showing up as Clara as a person she esteemed, to say “Of several billion such images in my databanks, this is the one that best meets the criterion.” As Clara would later say: “One last chance. And I don't care about the rules, I don't give a damn about paradoxes...” Of course neither did River, but the TARDIS was probably more okay with River's temporal recklessness because River's priority was to keep the Doctor safe. Just rewatched the scene from Dark Water – Capaldi's series of expressions before he takes back control of the situation and tells Clara to look at her hand! Sheer poetry.
And Clara mirroring both the Doctor and (as we now know) the Mistress/Master, and both of them saying “Clara my Clara”... Someone on Philip Sandifer's post commented that the Mistress was perhaps training up Clara to be *her* companion, using the darker Doctor as an introductory training / gateway drug for the more difficult stuff. (And if the Mistress influenced the regeneration energy out of Gallifrey, perhaps she frowned him that face.) Could totally see it working after the season so far. “You were an excellent Doctor. Goodness had nothing to do with it.”
Looking forward to tomorrow and your subsequent reactions and meta!
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Hurrah for replies!
I read your post btw and meant to answer but time... *throws up hands*
I had thought that the Cloister Bell when the first key hit the lava was the Doctor controlling the illusion and trying to impress on Clara the seriousness of the situation, but I had forgotten the key glowing after the TARDIS “regenerated” in Eleventh Hour, so could well be more, too.
I could be wrong, but there might be more to it... It'd fit very well with setting something up without people being aware that that's what was happening.
And even though throwing the keys away is a dream, that might be quite enough for the TARDIS to dislike Clara.
I don't think that's it. For one, it's not mentioned (no 'It's no wonder the TARDIS never liked you'), and second there's no evidence that the TARDIS is 'in' on the dream. It COULD fit if we never get another explanation, but I'm hoping there's more to it.
And for the TARDIS visual interface in Hide, showing up as Clara as a person she esteemed, to say “Of several billion such images in my databanks, this is the one that best meets the criterion.” As Clara would later say: “One last chance. And I don't care about the rules, I don't give a damn about paradoxes...”
I can see what you're saying, but I think there must be an answer that fits better.
Of course neither did River, but the TARDIS was probably more okay with River's temporal recklessness because River's priority was to keep the Doctor safe.
River is the child of the TARDIS, of course the TARDIS doesn't mind whatever she does. :)
Just rewatched the scene from Dark Water – Capaldi's series of expressions before he takes back control of the situation and tells Clara to look at her hand! Sheer poetry.
And this is why it's such an important scene. Actually, it's almost literally the 'hold someone over a volcano and you'll see what they're made of'. ("Know a man for years. Live with him, share his bread and water, speak with him on every subject. Then tie him up and hold him over a volcano's edge. On that day, you shall finally meet that man."
— Chinese warrior-poet Xiang Yu)
Someone on Philip Sandifer's post commented that the Mistress was perhaps training up Clara to be *her* companion, using the darker Doctor as an introductory training / gateway drug for the more difficult stuff.
Could be. *pokes Clara*
And if the Mistress influenced the regeneration energy out of Gallifrey, perhaps she frowned him that face.
Didn't mention faces! Hope we get an explanation for the repeated faces... That's most certainly something that's been set up very carefully.
Could totally see it working after the season so far. “You were an excellent Doctor. Goodness had nothing to do with it.”
Absolutely! The themes have been incredibly consistent.
Looking forward to tomorrow and your subsequent reactions and meta!
I both can't wait & dread it...
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DO I DARE ASK YOU TO ELABORATE ON THE PARENTHETICAL?
The Doctor knows all about betraying those he loves, and the fact that he is honest enough to admit this is making me very happy indeed.
LOVE IS WHATEVER YOU CAN STILL BETRAY. (Also, way to punch someone in the neck with those Journey’s End/Girl Who Waited caps.)
If Danny were female, I am sure everyone would talk about how he’d been ‘fridged’ - and in a sense he has been.
But is it really “fridging” if the character is still sentient and part of the story (regardless of not being technically alive)?
But if you want people to get rid of emotions and feelings, what better tool?
I was genuinely thinking that if I were in that situation I would probably press delete. A harrowing thought.
Now, having just re-watched Deep Breath, it is easy to see how that sets up the theme - the droid using people as spare parts, people being kept in the larder ‘alive’
And come to think of it, didn’t Clara have to pretend to be a robot in that episode? HM HM HM.
(I do hope Danny will stick around.)
Now there are people complaining about how Missy/Doctor is all heteronormative
Not that I necessarily disagree, but I can’t deny I’m ECSTATIC about female!Master (Mistress). Also, keep in mind that Doctor/Master being legitimately canon NOW actually means it was ALWAYS canon?
And like I said previously - it’s beyond delightful that he’s now being accused of cosying up to the feminazis and paving the way for a female Doctor and destroying the show, since everyone knows that he hates women…
Bless. I have my own fair share of issues with Moffat, but the Tumblr Feminism surrounding this show (and positing Davies as some feminist icon) has been enough to drive me to drink.
THE NOSE KISSES.
’Two hearts, both of them yours’
There is love in the world tbh.
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The most obvious example is River in TWoRS. She quite simply goes 'You. Shallnot. Pass.' She becomes an unmovable object and the Doctor has to cede her the game (see chess metaphors etc). The fact that the universe is falling to bits is an unfortunate consequence, but one she uses to her advantage. A more direct parallel is Amy in Amy's Choice (as River's dilemma is being forced to do something she doesn't want to do), but Amy also loses the man she loves. And takes immediate action, with which the Doctor doesn't argue - well not much (DOCTOR: Be very sure. This could be the real world./AMY: It can't be. Rory isn't here. I didn't know. I didn't, I didn't, I honestly didn't, till right now. I just want him./DOCTOR: Okay. Okay.) The circumstances are different in Dark Water, but Clara manipulates her way into having leverage. Pretends everything is fine, whilst putting her plan into action - which is very much like how the Doctor operates.
LOVE IS WHATEVER YOU CAN STILL BETRAY.
Very nicely put.
(Also, way to punch someone in the neck with those Journey’s End/Girl Who Waited caps.)
It's just a warm up for the second part of the finale. Get ready to have your emotions pummeled.
But is it really “fridging” if the character is still sentient and part of the story (regardless of not being technically alive)?
If Danny was a girl, we'd be able to hear the screaming about fridging from space. But you definitely have a point - I just wanted to highlight the way the traditional roles have been switched.
I was genuinely thinking that if I were in that situation I would probably press delete. A harrowing thought.
It's a genuinely terrifying concept. Probably the most horrific thing Moffat has come up with. (So... well done Mr Moffat.)
And come to think of it, didn’t Clara have to pretend to be a robot in that episode? HM HM HM.
Oh yes. Monstering ALL the way. And there was that weird cut-away thing where she was all orange-y and stuff. Never knew what to make of that.
(I do hope Danny will stick around.)
*clings to Danny* PLEASE SANTA MOFF LET EVERYONE LIVE???
Not that I necessarily disagree, but I can’t deny I’m ECSTATIC about female!Master (Mistress).
Well I think she's the best thing since sliced bread! :D
Also, keep in mind that Doctor/Master being legitimately canon NOW actually means it was ALWAYS canon?
Oh absolutely.
Bless. I have my own fair share of issues with Moffat, but the Tumblr Feminism surrounding this show (and positing Davies as some feminist icon) has been enough to drive me to drink.
Oh god, the Davies adulation. It's hysterical. Esp for those of us who remember when he was in charge...
THE NOSE KISSES.
SHE IS THE BEST THING AND I WANT TO KEEP HER FOREVER!
There is love in the world tbh.
This is what makes Missy (/the Master) so fascinating. (S)he is evil, yet their number one priority is the Doctor...
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So Clara is in the middle, mirroring both of them. (Many thought Missy would turn out to be an evil Clara echo, esp given her outfit.) It would not surprise me in the least for Clara to be caught in the middle between them both in the final part, having to choose… And the choice not being easy.
I wonder if we're not heading for a Clara saves the world/the Doctor saves Clara kind of thing? I'm still waiting on the Doctor sacrifices himself for Clara resolution that I assumed we'd be getting with Eleven's regeneration. And since Clara is now the Doctor (which would make the Doctor her companion), that would be generally how finales go.
Also obviously the Doctor can never save the Master. But if Clara is becoming the Master, he can save Clara. You probably won't even read this until after you've seen the finale anyway, but thought I'd throw it out there *g*
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Order? You silly thing.
I wonder if we're not heading for a Clara saves the world/the Doctor saves Clara kind of thing? I'm still waiting on the Doctor sacrifices himself for Clara resolution that I assumed we'd be getting with Eleven's regeneration. And since Clara is now the Doctor (which would make the Doctor her companion), that would be generally how finales go.
You know, I wouldn't have pegged The Caretaker as the episode to take my cues from...
Also obviously the Doctor can never save the Master.
Heh.
But if Clara is becoming the Master, he can save Clara. You probably won't even read this until after you've seen the finale anyway, but thought I'd throw it out there *g*
It's a good thought.
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DANNY. Oh my God, he killed a kid and then he became a teacher with kids asking him if he'd ever killed someone...! Oh Danny. So brave and so lonely. A man who loves Clara enough to make her let go of him so she can live her life. Because what else was he going to say to her when she threatened to hang up? Clara making the mistake that very clever people often make of thinking everyone else is stupid. I would point out that this is the one instance in this episode where Danny thinks rationally and Clara is emotional.
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Missy is very very good. And played completely straight, as it were.
It was fun to see Twelve, who's been one of the more 'masterful' Doctors (hahaha), reduced to complete horror and utter terror, put in a state of true panic. Which could only be done by Missy, I suspect.
Missy is chaos he can't control...
Capaldi's face acting is matched only by Gomez's face acting.
She is AMAZING. I want to keep her forever.
DANNY. Oh my God, he killed a kid and then he became a teacher with kids asking him if he'd ever killed someone...!
Someone called him 'a ladykiller' so I'd sort of presumed he'd killed a woman... This was truly a sucker punch.
Oh Danny. So brave and so lonely. A man who loves Clara enough to make her let go of him so she can live her life. Because what else was he going to say to her when she threatened to hang up?
I liked him before, but he absolutely sold it this episode. Amazing.
Clara making the mistake that very clever people often make of thinking everyone else is stupid.
She is *so* much like the Doctor...
I would point out that this is the one instance in this episode where Danny thinks rationally and Clara is emotional.
Oh absolutely. (This is why the flipping was especially interesting.)
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HAHAHAHA *sobs*
I loved him so much. The fact that Samuel Anderson's played him very calm and stoic means that when you see him upset and breaking down... your heart just BREAKS for him. Poor man. Poor, brave man. The only person who doesn't do what Clara Oswald tells him to do.
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Yeah, that's it.
I loved him so much. The fact that Samuel Anderson's played him very calm and stoic means that when you see him upset and breaking down... your heart just BREAKS for him. Poor man. Poor, brave man.
::nods a lot::
The only person who doesn't do what Clara Oswald tells him to do.
This. The one person the control freak can't control. And that's very important - what will she do without him?
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Carry on, what else is there to do? He defied her to the end.
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I love Missy something fierce. THANK YOU SANTA MOFF FOR INTRODUCING ME TO MICHELLE GOMEZ.
Her droid scene was the best. So much puzzled robot recording plus indignation plus flirtation. I don't know why, but I also really liked the delivery of the line "Clara, Clara, Clara, Clara... I could shoot her in a jealous rage... my, now wouldn't that be sexy."
What a demented Mary Poppins. I loved every second.
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Thank you. And my head is bursting...
I love Missy something fierce. THANK YOU SANTA MOFF FOR INTRODUCING ME TO MICHELLE GOMEZ.
SHE IS THE BEST WE MUST KEEP HER FOREVER!
Her droid scene was the best. So much puzzled robot recording plus indignation plus flirtation. I don't know why, but I also really liked the delivery of the line "Clara, Clara, Clara, Clara... I could shoot her in a jealous rage... my, now wouldn't that be sexy."
I could quote every single line. It's extraordinary.
What a demented Mary Poppins. I loved every second.
We get the BEST villains. :D Thank you Santa Moff.
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You make a very good point about the gender-swap-ish twist with Danny's position and Clara's. Oh, his story was so emotional. ♥ This episode just had all the intensity. And seeing plot callbacks in hindsight, in Deep Breath most of all! What a thrill. Episode parallels always do make me so happy, everything is connected. (Those classic parallels omfg ♥)
I can't comment coherently on Missy because of brain goo. But yes, very thought-provoking counterarguments to the heteronormative accusation. And it preparing the coming of the female!Doctor—can't find anything wrong with that! ^_^ Love love love the specific moments you pointed out between them, and the interview extract with Missy as a dark mirror, of course.
And besides, all we need is some throwaway line from her about how he should stop being so reticent as this is hardly new for them, and all the slash anyone has ever wanted will be cemented as canon. And even without that we have a much more stable 'ship retroactively. ‘The Doctor maintains my heart’/’Two hearts, both of them yours’ <- this is hardly something that’s happened overnight.
Yessss. :D She is almost unsettlingly open—like you said, regeneration shifts.
Loving your thoughts, nothing new there! ♥
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And I was only really scratching the surface...
Clara's development independently of the Doctor, Clara having her Waters of Mars, Clara manipulating vs. the Ponds' unmovable obstacle strategy, the relevance of the TARDIS keys, the River reference in the book she took, and CLARA BEING CLAIMED BY BOTH MISSY AND THE DOCTOR. ♥
This episode was just crammed full. I love it.
I haven't yet finished watching Death in Heaven so I don't know how this turns out, but omfg, all the love for that idea.
It didn't turn out how I expected, but I was very happy with what we got. :)
You make a very good point about the gender-swap-ish twist with Danny's position and Clara's. Oh, his story was so emotional. ♥
Poor, poor Danny. And heroic right to the end.
This episode just had all the intensity. And seeing plot callbacks in hindsight, in Deep Breath most of all! What a thrill. Episode parallels always do make me so happy, everything is connected. (Those classic parallels omfg ♥)
The more you look, the more you see.
I can't comment coherently on Missy because of brain goo.
MISSY! We need MOAR MISSY!
But yes, very thought-provoking counterarguments to the heteronormative accusation. And it preparing the coming of the female!Doctor—can't find anything wrong with that! ^_^
You can't have BOTH future fem!Doctor AND m/m slash. And I am more keen on the former. :) (Also re. not getting any m/m snogging last time, then I lay that at RTD's door. And he is gay, so he has no excuse. *g*)
Love love love the specific moments you pointed out between them, and the interview extract with Missy as a dark mirror, of course.
Michelle Gomez knows what she is talking about.
Yessss. :D She is almost unsettlingly open—like you said, regeneration shifts.
I have SO MUCH TO SAY about Death in Heaven... *flails and falls over*
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So much stuff to say! ;)
Poor, poor Danny. And heroic right to the end.
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MISSY! We need MOAR MISSY!
ALL THE MISSY! (I'm cheering at everything that implies she might be back… ♥)
You can't have BOTH future fem!Doctor AND m/m slash.
*nods*
(Also re. not getting any m/m snogging last time, then I lay that at RTD's door. And he is gay, so he has no excuse. *g*)
True ;)
Michelle Gomez knows what she is talking about.
♥
I have SO MUCH TO SAY about Death in Heaven... *flails and falls over*
Can't wait to see that! :D (I kept thinking about the shift between End of Time!Doctor/Master and Missy's current reactions to him… "I wonder what I'd be without that noise."/"Wonder what I'd be, without you." It's like she's channelling both and it makes all the sense ♥)
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Well Michelle Gomez has confirmed that she'll return in S9, so feel free to throw a party! :D
Can't wait to see that! :D (I kept thinking about the shift between End of Time!Doctor/Master and Missy's current reactions to him… "I wonder what I'd be without that noise."/"Wonder what I'd be, without you." It's like she's channelling both and it makes all the sense ♥)
Oh I've got ENDLESS stuff to say...
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Oh I've got ENDLESS stuff to say...
I can imagine and I can't wait! ♥♥♥
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I love your Twelve/Missy icons :) (I'm resolutely calling them Distress instead of Twissy ;P)
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Plus, it almost gives us Distress vs. Disaster. That would have been the very best thing.
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