elisi: Edwin and Charles (Clara 2)
elisi ([personal profile] elisi) wrote2014-09-13 04:50 pm
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Two good posts.

From Steven Moffat Appreciation on Tumblr: Some Random Amateur’s Guide to Overthinking Doctor Who. (Thoughts on how to get the most out of Moffat Who.)

And [livejournal.com profile] such_heights wrote this very interesting thing:

One Of My Hobbies: companions and life outside the Doctor.
('So there's an interesting post on tumblr from taiey pointing out just how many of Clara's episodes feature her home/work life as well as her adventures with the Doctor - she tallies it as 75% up to last week's episode. That seems pretty high! And then I was curious what it looked like for other companions, as well as the time periods spent travelling full time in the TARDIS versus coming along for visits etc.)

[identity profile] kita0610.livejournal.com 2014-09-13 04:20 pm (UTC)(link)
So, way back when, in BtVS S5, I remember first hearing rumors that Spike was going to fall in love with Buffy. And I asked my ficbitch, "OMG WHY DOES EVERYONE ON THE SHOW HAVE TO FALL IN LOVE WITH BUFFY", and she looked askance at me and said, "Because it's BUFFY's show?"

The whole 'debate' about whether or not Companions spend enough time NOT thinking about the Doctor is really ridiculous when you think about it that way. Particularly since the Doctor is an ALIEN WITH A TIME TRAVELING DEVICE. I'm sorry, but if I met one of those, you're damn right he would swallow up the rest of my so called life.

[identity profile] rustydragonfly.livejournal.com 2014-09-13 04:26 pm (UTC)(link)
It's funny, because I think it's only in the revival series that I've seen the companions have much of an outside life. But some people are just never happy, I guess..

And I always get a bit mad at people complaining that a character trying to run from their lives is a bad character. I love characters like that. I like to watch them and I like to write them... and yes, I find them relatable. Stop telling me what I can and can't like, fandom!

[identity profile] kita0610.livejournal.com 2014-09-13 04:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I think "running from their lives" is up for debate too. How freaking amazing would your life have to be to say no to a (I say again) ALIEN DUDE WITH A TIME TRAVELING MACHINE. FFS.

(Yeah, all the fans sitting online 10 hours a day complaining about Moffat's Who would just be like, nah, I'll stay here, thanks.)

Also- narratives kind of require conflict. Hi, I'm perfectly content, nice to meet you Mr. Alien is a really really boring story.

[identity profile] rustydragonfly.livejournal.com 2014-09-13 04:42 pm (UTC)(link)
NO I WILL STAY HERE AND BE INDEPENDENT. Bah. Give me the time travelling alien please.

But even so, I love running from their lives type characters and it's why I get mad at people who crit Amy because she's "not relatable" - to me she is the most relatable companion so far. Sure I didn't grow up with cracks in time in my walls, but I was still the weird kid who never fit in and kept wishing for an imaginary friend to take me away on adventures. If people say we shouldn't have characters like Amy, what I hear is "you can't have characters who are like you" and that? NOT COOL.

I mean hell I like the other companions too, but they always seemed better able to fit into the real world around them before the Doctor came along, even if they weren't totally happy. Seeing a character who so obviously does not means a lot to me. Even wrote one of my favourite OCs as a tribute to her.

And really if all the complainers can't handle characters having fantastical things happen to them, you have to ask why they're bothering to watch a sci-fi show rather than say, a soap.

[identity profile] kita0610.livejournal.com 2014-09-13 04:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I want to have a super intelligent reply to this comment, but all my brain keeps chanting is THIS SO MUCH THIS.

I am still not over losing Amy Pond as a Companion. I loved how imperfect she was, how she started out so obviously faking all that confidence and then grew into her own over the course of her arc. I love how she owned her sexuality and her choices, and I love that she let herself be vulnerable even when SHE was the hero. I think her and Buffy would have gotten on famously.

And so much yes to your last bit there- complaining about the fantastic in a show like Doctor Who is like saying you couldn't enjoy Downton Abbey because there aren't enough car chases.

[identity profile] rustydragonfly.livejournal.com 2014-09-13 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I was watching Who recently and came to the conclusion Clara is all about turning the entire "companion is all centred around the Doctor" narrative upside down! We have a character who is totally integral to the Doctor's life being as it is... and she's a teacher with a home life of her own who travels with him on occasion. And they say the show isn't self aware!

[identity profile] a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com 2014-09-13 05:37 pm (UTC)(link)
These were awesome!! Thankies, bb!!

*HUGS*

[identity profile] ragnarok-08.livejournal.com 2014-09-13 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Those are pretty interesting :)

[identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com 2014-09-14 03:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for those links :)

[identity profile] flowsoffire.livejournal.com 2014-09-18 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, thanks for the links! They were pretty interesting :)