I loved Rose when she was on the show. I liked her, but never found her very interesting. (I don't generally latch onto 'viewer avatars' - for me it was all about the Doctor. *g*)
I liked Martha, but the third season definitely felt like it had a Rose-shaped hole in it. I liked the fourth season much better, partly because Donna, like Rose, had a kind of "ecosystem" with her that made her feel more complete as a character. I always felt like RTD was maybe too busy getting Torchwood off the ground to pay as much attention to Martha as he should have. Also in hindsight, I think Russell was more interested in writing about the Master (don't blame him, LOL) than he ever was about Martha. Yes, some truth in that, but I find Martha a lot more rewarding, characterwise. There's a lot to mine in her story, and her future, whereas Rose & Donna both got tied up with a neat bow. (Not that I don't like them, Donna esp. is awesome, but I don't have a lot to say about them.)
My pet theory about Martha is that she ran off with the Doctor less because she was in love with him and more because she needed to get away from her crazy family. Stuff like that. *nods* But, like I try to explain above, her convoluted relationship with the Doctor is more rewarding (for me), than Rose's (starcrossed lovers) or Donna's (lost BFF).
LOL, thank you SO MUCH for that link! (I'm pretty sure Scarletgirl also used to post over on Television Without Pity; her name seems familiar). Really fabulous insights. Quite possibly. She's been around for a long time.
I learned this the (very) hard way back on Buffy, when I had Oz and Willow's future all mapped out: grad school, marriage, kids, the works. Then Seth Green decided to leave the show and Willow became a lesbian. LOL. Oops! ; ) My OTPs just DIE. And are emotionally incapable of expressing their feelings. :(
One of the nice things about shipping River-Doctor is that there's so much wiggle room. You know how it begins, how it ends, but there's so much potential for unseen adventures between the episodes, you can easily write about a romantic side-trip they took to such-and-such planet. : ) Thissssss. (And Doctor/River is the odd one out, because they get together and get MARRIED and LOVE EACH OTHER, but are still deliciously screwed up.)
I can only imagine the hand-printed fabric that the sponge lady could create. She could also add a splash of color to my plain white cabinets. : ) You might need glasses...
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I liked her, but never found her very interesting. (I don't generally latch onto 'viewer avatars' - for me it was all about the Doctor. *g*)
I liked Martha, but the third season definitely felt like it had a Rose-shaped hole in it. I liked the fourth season much better, partly because Donna, like Rose, had a kind of "ecosystem" with her that made her feel more complete as a character. I always felt like RTD was maybe too busy getting Torchwood off the ground to pay as much attention to Martha as he should have. Also in hindsight, I think Russell was more interested in writing about the Master (don't blame him, LOL) than he ever was about Martha.
Yes, some truth in that, but I find Martha a lot more rewarding, characterwise. There's a lot to mine in her story, and her future, whereas Rose & Donna both got tied up with a neat bow. (Not that I don't like them, Donna esp. is awesome, but I don't have a lot to say about them.)
My pet theory about Martha is that she ran off with the Doctor less because she was in love with him and more because she needed to get away from her crazy family. Stuff like that.
*nods* But, like I try to explain above, her convoluted relationship with the Doctor is more rewarding (for me), than Rose's (starcrossed lovers) or Donna's (lost BFF).
LOL, thank you SO MUCH for that link! (I'm pretty sure Scarletgirl also used to post over on Television Without Pity; her name seems familiar). Really fabulous insights.
Quite possibly. She's been around for a long time.
I learned this the (very) hard way back on Buffy, when I had Oz and Willow's future all mapped out: grad school, marriage, kids, the works. Then Seth Green decided to leave the show and Willow became a lesbian. LOL. Oops! ; )
My OTPs just DIE. And are emotionally incapable of expressing their feelings. :(
One of the nice things about shipping River-Doctor is that there's so much wiggle room. You know how it begins, how it ends, but there's so much potential for unseen adventures between the episodes, you can easily write about a romantic side-trip they took to such-and-such planet. : )
Thissssss. (And Doctor/River is the odd one out, because they get together and get MARRIED and LOVE EACH OTHER, but are still deliciously screwed up.)
I can only imagine the hand-printed fabric that the sponge lady could create. She could also add a splash of color to my plain white cabinets. : )
You might need glasses...