elisi: 12th Doctor with guitar, mellow (Twelve)
elisi ([personal profile] elisi) wrote2013-06-07 08:52 pm
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Assorted Twelve thoughts

Firstly, re. the female Doctor issue... We've had two so far. One in the Comic Relief Special The Curse of Fatal Death (incidentally Moffat's first outing writing DW, and a gem that never fails to entertain! If you've not see it, make it a priority). The other was played by Arabella Weir (one of David Tennant's BFFs, as it happens) in one of the audio adventures. So it's not unheard of.

Speaking of The Curse of Fatal Death, you are welcome to check out my theory, which means that Twelve will be Hugh Grant!Doctor. I don't have a problem with this. *g*

However, the main point of this post is another bit of headcanon:

When the Doc regenerates, his older self isn't gone, it just goes home and watches his current self on the TV

This comes via [livejournal.com profile] di_br and her peerless vid: Tenth Doctor: The Musical. But of course Eleven couldn't sit all alone, could he? He has a family, after all. So, once Twelve's era rolls round, my 'reviews' will have a different flavour (I made a banner and everything. THEIR FACES!):


(Everyone's migrated to the sofa except for River who's not keen on fish custard, and also pleased to have the rest of the wine to herself.)

They'll do some kind of running commentary - not sure how detailed yet, but I'm sure I'll figure out a workable format. :) And don't worry, I'm sure there'll be meta too. But. Ponds watching Doctor Who? It's irresistible.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-07 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
"Head... Shoulders... Knees and toes... Knees and toes... Eyes and ears and mouth and nose – Oh, that’s a definite improvement! But as for the ears – I’m never too sure about the ears. Legs – good. Teeth – weird. Voice – weirder. Hair! ...Oh, forget the voice – I am ginger!! Okay, got that done. What was I doing...? Oh! Clara! Only one question. Do you still trust me?"

... Meh. Just a thought.

I started writing a story about a year ago that would've been about Twelve examining his new body in a mirror, when Eleven appears in the mirror, saying he's in the Doctor-y afterlife and Ten's being a prat to him, and he'd like some extra help getting into his realm. Twelve agrees and telepathically follows him into the Doctor Retirement Realm.

I might finish it next year when Twelve is better established.

~ srmcd1

(Anonymous) 2013-06-07 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, be fair - Ten's apparently coming from a time when he's traveling with Rose, so he's still cheerful and upbeat and "Look at me! I'm the Doctor! Wheeee!"

The version of Ten in the story would've been from after EoT, so he's not managed to shuffle off his guilt from what he did and how he acted towards the end, particularly during WoM.

Found the file. Here's an excerpt:

The man behind the eighth door spoke up at last. “I’m afraid he hasn’t recovered.”

“You have. I doubt you arrived here in a dissimilar state. In fact, I would think you would’ve been worse off.”

Eight shuffled awkwardly. “Yes… Well, I had to make a terrible decision that was for the good of the universe as a whole, and therefore at the end of the day, I can find some sort of justification for my actions. He, on the other hand, made an unfortunately terrible decision just for himself and his own ends – our ends, I should say. We can’t justify his behavior.”

The Doctor nodded. “We’ve never been able to… The most we can do is live with the guilt and repent.”

“Exactly,” Eleven said quietly. “You and I have moved on and made new memories and had new experiences… But he’s just sat here and wallowed in self-pity, forever trying to justify his actions to himself.”

(Anonymous) 2013-06-07 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I *have* seen it. At least a hundred times. They are *adorable*!

I did read Hollow Men. Very good, and very depressing.

Of course, I intended my story to have a happy ending. Twelve would've helped to set Ten straight, and while Ten wouldn't immediately become happy and perky, he would've been on the road to recovery by the time it was over.

~ srmcd1

[identity profile] lyricwrites.livejournal.com 2013-06-08 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
Pity you can't let the companions at him. Then again, if you did, it would be over too quickly.

"Listen, spaceman, I'm not going to pretend I'm not pissed as hell at you, but at the end of the day, you went out saving my granddad's life. So I'll waive my right to spend a few fun centuries kicking you right in the balls if you sit down, shut up for once, and listen to Sarah Jane."

[identity profile] lyricwrites.livejournal.com 2013-06-08 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
Although apparently Ten & Eleven get along rather well

I doubt that's the full story. They have to bicker first. Or perhaps even seriously fight.

Later in the episode, of course, they're having a lovely time and spouting catch-phrases at each other. Which is when Clara and Rose start having the the inevitable conversation:

"Does he still—lick things, though?"
"Oh, god, the licking things! What is that about?"
"I knoooow. It's like, Doctor, you don't know where that's been. You don't know what that even is. It could be poisonous. It could be alive. It could be someone's mum, and you just put your tongue on it! What are you, five?"

Not to mention that Clara probably has dirt on several previous Doctors, or at least got to notice various weirdnesses as they raced past, so they could some nice discussions on subjects such as "The Coat: What the Hell" or "Question Marks: Why?"

[identity profile] honeynoir.livejournal.com 2013-06-07 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
That is the best banner.

[identity profile] honeynoir.livejournal.com 2013-06-07 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
By which I, ofc, mean that the whole idea and everything is... the best.

I love Nine's reactions in Musical, and with the Ponds it'd be... everything times three. Or four, depending on Eleven. <3

[identity profile] a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com 2013-06-07 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
*HUGS* I am avoiding all spoilers. My strength of denial is strong.
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[personal profile] promethia_tenk 2013-06-08 12:37 am (UTC)(link)



Is it season eight yet?

When the Doc regenerates, his older self isn't gone, it just goes home and watches his current self on the TV
This is undeniably true.
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[personal profile] promethia_tenk 2013-06-08 02:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, they'd need to have him cast by the time they shoot the Christmas special, which can't be that far off.

ETA: Or not? Apparently they might announce him tonight as a Sunday paper has gotten hold of the name. (Ooooh, it's just like The Writers Tale...)
I shall prepare my OMG, IT'S SOME DUDE I'VE NEVER HEARD OF! reaction.
promethia_tenk: (kiss kiss bang bang)

[personal profile] promethia_tenk 2013-06-08 02:42 pm (UTC)(link)
True. But then it takes them... 9 months to shoot a series? So we won't get anything until next autumn. :(
I'm starting to understand how Sherlock fandom feels.

[identity profile] eaweek.livejournal.com 2013-06-08 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you SO MUCH for linking to "Tenth Doctor: The Musical." I just about DIED laughing. Most fanfids are kind of angsty and self-indulgent, but this one was just really, really clever. Using Nine watching TV as a framing device was a stroke of genius, and the "bonus track" at the end had me LOLing so hard I think I scared the dog. Also, the running gag of constantly repeating "All by Myself" got funnier as it went along. Extra points for the use of Weird Al's "I think I'm a Clone Now." Bravo!

[identity profile] eaweek.livejournal.com 2013-06-09 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
I think Moff would like the "Vogue" bit at the end with the Weeping Angels. : )

[identity profile] eaweek.livejournal.com 2013-06-10 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
It's just so perfect! "Strike a pose." LOL!

[identity profile] dweomeroflight.livejournal.com 2013-06-08 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
OMG THAT BANNER. POND'S. YES. new head canon is go.

[identity profile] a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com 2013-06-08 05:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I want this!! I WANT IT.

*whimpers*

And yes. Yes, he would be with his Ponds. I refuse to believe anything else.

*sniffles*
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[personal profile] sea_thoughts 2013-06-09 05:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh gosh, I can't WAIT to hear the Ponds and Eleven commenting on Twelve and Clara.

[identity profile] flowsoffire.livejournal.com 2013-06-09 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahhhh, I LOVE the idea. Headcanon :D

[identity profile] mengu.livejournal.com 2013-06-10 11:17 am (UTC)(link)
I went and looked at your Hollow Men meta, and then I got onto the scarletgirl entry about The Family of Blood and just ahahaha they used to think that 10 would be redeemed, that someone or something would pull him back from the brink and put him back in happy scamp mode and that it might happen in series 4.

AHAHAHAHA sweet summer children.

[identity profile] mengu.livejournal.com 2013-06-14 05:42 am (UTC)(link)
I can understand making the mistake based on other TV shows but...
Looking at people's predictions is always hilarious. Sometimes they're right and that's interesting too, but mostly they're just so funny.