She is the same character all the way through, it's him who's changing and she just reacts to that. Here's one I made earlier:
(It's for an addendum which I've yet to write... I'll make a slightly different point to the one you make, but since I had this ready, well. *g*)
Your point about the the library whisper from her and the Berlin whisper from him is fab. I've thought (an awful lot) about these episodes and re-watched multiple times but that exact thought of them being a mirror of each other never crystallised with me until I read this. It seems so obvious now, even them being two whispers. Genius! Why thank you! I sorta wanted to go into that further, but I knew if I started expanding, it'd be another two weeks before I posted... However, despite the number of different whispers (the one at the end of the Angel episodes and the one in TWoRS), these two are definitely the most important ones, in that they completely change the other person. Also (and I think I mentioned this in my LKH post), there is the fact that both River and the Doctor stumble without the other's support. Watch the Doctor call for River even when she doesn't know her name (all the love for LKH!), needing her so desperately when she's the one fighting him... Just like River falters without her Doctor's support. Oh the mirrors, they're MESMERISING! <3 (Of course the Doctor is literally dying when River is the one who doesn't know what she'll be to him, yet otoh she does know who he is - she is actively hostile, not dismissive. I hope that makes sense, I'm half asleep.)
And it's good to hear Garbage! I used to listen to that album on cassette on my fancy looping walkman. I still have it with the interview with Shirley Manson torn out of the NME folded up inside. :D I dragged all my Roxette cassettes out the other week and had a nostalgia feast. *deeeeep sigh* (Perfect vid is perfect though.)
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She is the same character all the way through, it's him who's changing and she just reacts to that.
Here's one I made earlier:
(It's for an addendum which I've yet to write... I'll make a slightly different point to the one you make, but since I had this ready, well. *g*)
Your point about the the library whisper from her and the Berlin whisper from him is fab. I've thought (an awful lot) about these episodes and re-watched multiple times but that exact thought of them being a mirror of each other never crystallised with me until I read this. It seems so obvious now, even them being two whispers. Genius!
Why thank you! I sorta wanted to go into that further, but I knew if I started expanding, it'd be another two weeks before I posted... However, despite the number of different whispers (the one at the end of the Angel episodes and the one in TWoRS), these two are definitely the most important ones, in that they completely change the other person. Also (and I think I mentioned this in my LKH post), there is the fact that both River and the Doctor stumble without the other's support. Watch the Doctor call for River even when she doesn't know her name (all the love for LKH!), needing her so desperately when she's the one fighting him... Just like River falters without her Doctor's support. Oh the mirrors, they're MESMERISING! <3 (Of course the Doctor is literally dying when River is the one who doesn't know what she'll be to him, yet otoh she does know who he is - she is actively hostile, not dismissive. I hope that makes sense, I'm half asleep.)
And it's good to hear Garbage! I used to listen to that album on cassette on my fancy looping walkman. I still have it with the interview with Shirley Manson torn out of the NME folded up inside. :D
I dragged all my Roxette cassettes out the other week and had a nostalgia feast. *deeeeep sigh* (Perfect vid is perfect though.)