I have always thought that David Greenwalt had a better grasp on Angel's character than Joss. In his episodes (of AtS), Angel was often the bastard that I love so much. When Joss wrote him, he seemed to get lost in the angsting. Joss finally seemed to get this in season 5, which is when Angel finally said F@#$ it, and decided to be himself and stop trying to be a good guy. Sure he wanted to save the world, but he realized people were going to get hurt in the process and that he didn't really care (unless it was someone he cared about).
That is something I have noticed about Joss in general, he doesn't seem as comfortable writing the morally ambiguous sides of his characters. He realizes they are there, but he isn't quite comfortable going there (Spin the Bottle is an example, since he stripped all the glorious layers away from Wes and took him back to the idiot we first met on BtVS). He seems much happier when he is dealing with achetypal characters rather than flawed human beings.
Oh and speaking of Angel and Jack getting in an angst off, I don't know if you ever saw this little ficlet but even though the bunny faded and it was jossed all to heck by After the Fall and CoE, I still think it fits them both.
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I have always thought that David Greenwalt had a better grasp on Angel's character than Joss. In his episodes (of AtS), Angel was often the bastard that I love so much. When Joss wrote him, he seemed to get lost in the angsting. Joss finally seemed to get this in season 5, which is when Angel finally said F@#$ it, and decided to be himself and stop trying to be a good guy. Sure he wanted to save the world, but he realized people were going to get hurt in the process and that he didn't really care (unless it was someone he cared about).
That is something I have noticed about Joss in general, he doesn't seem as comfortable writing the morally ambiguous sides of his characters. He realizes they are there, but he isn't quite comfortable going there (Spin the Bottle is an example, since he stripped all the glorious layers away from Wes and took him back to the idiot we first met on BtVS). He seems much happier when he is dealing with achetypal characters rather than flawed human beings.
Oh and speaking of Angel and Jack getting in an angst off, I don't know if you ever saw this little ficlet but even though the bunny faded and it was jossed all to heck by After the Fall and CoE, I still think it fits them both.