It's just that I don't see that Moffat's female characters have objectively better stories or that they are more complex or more interesting. Ah. Now this is my own fault for writing meta in the middle of the half term with children disturbing me every other moment, and then posting immediately. I didn't mean that Moffat's women are better or more interesting (and given the number of people who can't get a handle on Amy, RTD is quite probably the better character-creator), but that from a feminist perspective Moffat's women (so far at least) are subjected to less writerly fail. (I hope that makes sense. Again, see BtVS and AtS. The only woman left standing at the end of the latter was Harmony, and she was already dead.)
Getting to how Rose and Donna's stories ended, I see it as a symptom of RTD's belief that no one would ever willingly stop traveling with the Doctor - therefore it must be unwilling. In both Rose and Donna's cases, they want forever and can't have it so they must be forced out. This is very, very true. (As soon as Donna said 'forever' I thought 'Oh great, now something HORRIBLE is going to happen to her!' and assumed the crash position. Joss scarred me FOR LIFE!)
He goes for maximum pain but pulls back so that they have the trappings of a happy ending if you don't think about it too closely. They have love and money and family but didn't get to make a positive choice to leave. Which is where it is problematic from a feminist point of view. From a story point of view though, I don't mind. :)
Anyway, thanks for commenting. You have several pic spams that I've yet to check out. Will get there though, don't worry...
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Ah. Now this is my own fault for writing meta in the middle of the half term with children disturbing me every other moment, and then posting immediately. I didn't mean that Moffat's women are better or more interesting (and given the number of people who can't get a handle on Amy, RTD is quite probably the better character-creator), but that from a feminist perspective Moffat's women (so far at least) are subjected to less writerly fail. (I hope that makes sense. Again, see BtVS and AtS. The only woman left standing at the end of the latter was Harmony, and she was already dead.)
Getting to how Rose and Donna's stories ended, I see it as a symptom of RTD's belief that no one would ever willingly stop traveling with the Doctor - therefore it must be unwilling. In both Rose and Donna's cases, they want forever and can't have it so they must be forced out.
This is very, very true. (As soon as Donna said 'forever' I thought 'Oh great, now something HORRIBLE is going to happen to her!' and assumed the crash position. Joss scarred me FOR LIFE!)
He goes for maximum pain but pulls back so that they have the trappings of a happy ending if you don't think about it too closely. They have love and money and family but didn't get to make a positive choice to leave.
Which is where it is problematic from a feminist point of view. From a story point of view though, I don't mind. :)
Anyway, thanks for commenting. You have several pic spams that I've yet to check out. Will get there though, don't worry...