though he does more often than team Torchwood, that IS the nature of the show Indeed. And I'm still thrilled that they took 'Torchwood = Adult Doctor Who' and actually went with it.
What is a difference in the conception of shows is that DW more often than not allows the human spirit to be a crucial factor in winning the day Yes, very much so. And the Toclafane are really not human anymore (much like cybermen), and in Midnight panic and terror were the driving forces. The monstrousness of the people in CoE was very different.
Jack and Ianto, otoh, made the mistake of going in and giving the big talk WITHOUT a plan B in case the 456 aren't bluffing. Which presumably the Doctor would not have done. *nods* And it also showed the difference between humans and Time Lords - the Doctor can [almost] always pull a solution out of thin air, because he is quite simply that clever and knows that much. Humans are far more limited.
...all of which is assuming he'd have intervened, and this wasn't one of those "fixed" events. I think it probably was - something that big, on a global scale, strikes me as very much 'fixed'. (And Alex' words confirm that, I suppose, when looked at in that light.) I'm actually going to tackle that in my fix-it fic that I'm currently working on! *g* ('Fix-it' being somewhat of a misnomer, since there are of course some things that *can't* be fixed.)
If their mentality actually was typical for protection rackets, they might have backed off when faced with someone they knew had an Oncoming Storm record. Otoh, we're talking about drug addicts here. Rationality is not their strong suit. Indeed. I liked one fic that suggested that the 456 had blocked all communication from Earth, which strikes me as very plausible.
Also, I got Kathy to make me this nifty icon. Very sharable if you want to snag! :)
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Indeed. And I'm still thrilled that they took 'Torchwood = Adult Doctor Who' and actually went with it.
What is a difference in the conception of shows is that DW more often than not allows the human spirit to be a crucial factor in winning the day
Yes, very much so. And the Toclafane are really not human anymore (much like cybermen), and in Midnight panic and terror were the driving forces. The monstrousness of the people in CoE was very different.
Jack and Ianto, otoh, made the mistake of going in and giving the big talk WITHOUT a plan B in case the 456 aren't bluffing. Which presumably the Doctor would not have done.
*nods* And it also showed the difference between humans and Time Lords - the Doctor can [almost] always pull a solution out of thin air, because he is quite simply that clever and knows that much. Humans are far more limited.
...all of which is assuming he'd have intervened, and this wasn't one of those "fixed" events.
I think it probably was - something that big, on a global scale, strikes me as very much 'fixed'. (And Alex' words confirm that, I suppose, when looked at in that light.) I'm actually going to tackle that in my fix-it fic that I'm currently working on! *g* ('Fix-it' being somewhat of a misnomer, since there are of course some things that *can't* be fixed.)
If their mentality actually was typical for protection rackets, they might have backed off when faced with someone they knew had an Oncoming Storm record. Otoh, we're talking about drug addicts here. Rationality is not their strong suit.
Indeed. I liked one fic that suggested that the 456 had blocked all communication from Earth, which strikes me as very plausible.
Also, I got Kathy to make me this nifty icon. Very sharable if you want to snag! :)