I thought 'The Long Way Home' was better. :) Joss is writing it as though it were a TV show. I think that is a weakness - not to mention the art and the ret-cons and the fact that I just don't really care...
when I turn off the DVD player I don't really think more about it. It's Buffy I get passionate (and scarily obsessive) about. That is of course something very subjective. For me, a lot of it comes down to Spike - as in, I'm not sure I'd love Buffy as much if Spike wasn't there. But Angel I love with or without Spike. Post-NFA the two kinda meld for me, although if I had to choose just one 'verse it'd be Angel. Also see my fic, most of which is ATS centric... I think it's the fact that Angel has no safety net. Buffy is a hero, and although I love that, it is also restricting - Angel struggles to be heroic, and often isn't. Angel has a darker, grittier quality to it that I find more compelling to explore.
That's a strength; but then again the more discursive and ensemble approach of 'TLWH' means that, in my opinion, it'll have more staying power. Possibly... the thing is that of course TLWH is all set-up - if it'll pay off we do not know yet. And the thing is - I care about character development and character exploration - and so far we've had exactly nil in s8. As I might have mentioned before, my response to things is always emotional first - only afterwards comes analysis. And so far I've not had any sort of emotional investment in s8... (beer_good_foamy puts is beautifully here.) Anyway, I'll get back to some of these issues in the spoilery review I'm going to write about Asylum. You'll see what I mean.
The fact that I like Spike as a character, rather than being "a Spike fan", is just maybe possibly an influence on my opinions as well. :) Well... you mention 'Spike Vs Dracula' below. I actually have the first two issues of that. Last night I dug them out and had another read... and dear lord they're *painful*! I'm sure my eyes were bleeding! The art is definitely worse than s8 (although the likeness is better, in a 'I traced this really badly' kinda way) - how can *anyone* make Spike, Darla and Dru look *ugly* in panel after panel? They're such utterly dropdead gorgeous creatures... *backs away* I liked elements of the story (the Dracula/gypsy connection for one) but I quite simply can't cope with the drawings and if anyone wants to tell me how it ends that would be great, because I am *not* buying them! ::shudders:: So no, I wouldn't say that the Spike-fan element is overriding.
Incidentally, are you planning to look at the earlier Spike comics? Possibly maybe. It is my birthday is 4 months' time...
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Joss is writing it as though it were a TV show. I think that is a weakness - not to mention the art and the ret-cons and the fact that I just don't really care...
when I turn off the DVD player I don't really think more about it. It's Buffy I get passionate (and scarily obsessive) about.
That is of course something very subjective. For me, a lot of it comes down to Spike - as in, I'm not sure I'd love Buffy as much if Spike wasn't there. But Angel I love with or without Spike. Post-NFA the two kinda meld for me, although if I had to choose just one 'verse it'd be Angel. Also see my fic, most of which is ATS centric... I think it's the fact that Angel has no safety net. Buffy is a hero, and although I love that, it is also restricting - Angel struggles to be heroic, and often isn't. Angel has a darker, grittier quality to it that I find more compelling to explore.
That's a strength; but then again the more discursive and ensemble approach of 'TLWH' means that, in my opinion, it'll have more staying power.
Possibly... the thing is that of course TLWH is all set-up - if it'll pay off we do not know yet. And the thing is - I care about character development and character exploration - and so far we've had exactly nil in s8. As I might have mentioned before, my response to things is always emotional first - only afterwards comes analysis. And so far I've not had any sort of emotional investment in s8... (
The fact that I like Spike as a character, rather than being "a Spike fan", is just maybe possibly an influence on my opinions as well. :)
Well... you mention 'Spike Vs Dracula' below. I actually have the first two issues of that. Last night I dug them out and had another read... and dear lord they're *painful*! I'm sure my eyes were bleeding! The art is definitely worse than s8 (although the likeness is better, in a 'I traced this really badly' kinda way) - how can *anyone* make Spike, Darla and Dru look *ugly* in panel after panel? They're such utterly dropdead gorgeous creatures... *backs away* I liked elements of the story (the Dracula/gypsy connection for one) but I quite simply can't cope with the drawings and if anyone wants to tell me how it ends that would be great, because I am *not* buying them! ::shudders:: So no, I wouldn't say that the Spike-fan element is overriding.
Incidentally, are you planning to look at the earlier Spike comics?
Possibly maybe. It is my birthday is 4 months' time...