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elisi ([personal profile] elisi) wrote2020-08-24 06:58 pm

Lockdown Update Day 160

First an article from just a couple of days ago:

Vox: The kindness is the point
The DNC’s best argument in the time of coronavirus: Joe Biden, unlike Donald Trump, is a decent man.

This sort of ties with something I've been meaning to post for a while. Thanks to a now-forgotten recommendation I listened to one of Ezra Klein's podcasts, 'Why Ta-Nehisi Coates is hopeful'. (Follow link & scroll down.) Can't remember exactly when it's from and I can't find a date, but I'd say... June?

It's all chewy & interesting, but this is the part that really struck me so I transcribed it (bit long, so put it under a cut):

Ezra Klein: There is a real way in which.. Joe Biden makes me hopeful about this? Joe Biden is weird, he’s like… the control group of american politics? He’s been in it so long, and he’s kinda always been in the centre of his party-

Ta-Nehisi Coates (laughs): Yeah, he’s right at the centre of every issue.

Ezra Klein: Exactly. Everything. And so looking at the way he’s changed, you can see the way politics around him is changing, like that conversation we were having earlier about… there’s work being done, like inside the 'pass the bill' like Biden, he’s always right there in the centre of the 'pass the bill', and then he’s also slowly reacting to what’s happening outside, right, whereas the culture - and people are making this point, The New York Times had a good piece on this, that if you looked at his first video about the George Floyd killing and the protestors that had turned violent, it just didn’t have any of the ‘on the one hand on the other hand’, like you know, the ‘order is important but so is the-’ like - it was just straightforward, right like: there has been a murder committed by police. And that is the cause of this. Like, even more so than the way Obama would talk about things like this a couple of years back. And if you look at Biden’s - even just his platform now, his policies, like, this guy was a partial author of the crime bill… and like, the crime bill was - like Bernie Sanders voted for the crime bill, that was a consensus document in American politics. And like now, the whole thing is moving away from it. Including Joe Biden. So this is when you really see in him - yeah, something is changing. And this is another reason why people are like, yeah.

[...]

Ezra Klein: I have not been feeling super optimistic lately about… life, but in terms of the election something that I think is interesting about him, and maybe is a good match for this moment, is here you have a candidate who I think to a lot of people, compared to Donald Trump - and really compared to the other folks in the democratic field - he is going to represent a kind of calm stability, familiarity and continuity, and he’s going to marry that with also being the candidate who also believes that the path to that is more humane approaches to policing, is racial justice, is taking hopefully structural inequality seriously, when you listen to the speeches he is giving right now, you know they’re… much more progressive on these things than democrats have ever really been before. Like ever. And yet he’s the old white guy who’s been in politics forever. And it’s not a good thing that those two things need to be married together, like it’s not a good thing that Joe Biden has so much more running room than in what he can say than what Cory Booker does, like it really isn’t — but, in this moment, the fact that the person who believes that there should be justice here, is also the person that people associate maybe with calm, I think is a good thing.

Ta-Nehisi Coates: Yeah. I don’t really know how this plays out, you know, but I think we are very much in an unprecedented moment. And I think, you know, direct analogues to other periods don’t quite work — the democratic party is so different, demographically, than it was even 25 years ago.


And this seemed like a suitable art work for this post:

Revisiting The Work Of Sonya Clark: Unraveling The Confederate Flag (x). The work is from 2016 and you can read about it here.

Sonya Clark
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[personal profile] yourlibrarian 2020-08-24 07:29 pm (UTC)(link)
One of the things I think is not referenced enough is that Bernie Sanders refused to go negative on Joe Biden, even though it might have helped him in the primaries. And he refused his campaign managers' wishes because he said Joe and Jill were decent people and he wasn't going to do that to them. I think the end result would have been the same but it says something about both men that that was his decision.
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[personal profile] shadowkat 2020-08-25 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
Coates article was in June - in response to the Black Lives Matter protests in the US. He was stating that his father saw what was happening now as being far greater than what happened before in the 1960s, and more likely to see real change. Why? White people are involved. Young white people. White people of all ages. It's not just people of color. Everyone wants it. For systematic change to occur - we have to do it together. It can't just be one group that wants it for itself. It has to be everyone. And what happened is people of ALL races and ALL colors across the US realized that racism destroys us all. You hurt one of us, you hurt all of us. That's how same-sex marriage got passed - we ALL wanted it, not just same-sex couples, but those of us who are heterosexual and bisexual wanted it too.

In the US, there were protests in rural white communities - where 98% of the population was white. That is huge.

And He's right - there have been major changes in the US as a result. The BLM protestors met with the NYPD and City council in NYC to develop a plan for a new police force. And Governor Cuomo of NY signed into law a requirement that in order to get funding, the local governments would have to provide a plan on how they wished to redefine and defund their local police precincts and re-establish trust. In addition choke holds were outlawed, and the Attorney General or Special Outside Prosecutor will review all police crimes.

Across the US, various localities have addressed the issue.

We also have the push back. There's always push-back. People who can't handle change and only care about themselves, and are scared. NYPD Union supported Trump as backlash against these measures. Doesn't matter they are in the minority and they know it. They will lose the battle.

That's why he's hopeful. Because for the first time in years, people are actually addressing the problem on a legislative level. They are passing laws. That is scaring the alt-right big time. That's why you're seeing the push-back. Protests are one thing, but actively writing legislation on a state and local level, restructuring, and creating community action groups - that's major change.

My community has it's own support group - where we provide aid to those in need, people pick up litter in their neighborhoods, and they ask their neighbors to be quiet. We are trying to find another way - a more proactive way than depending on the City to provide all of it for us. There's various community action groups that have sprouted up around NYC.

So yes, there's reason for hope. I've never seen anything like this in 50 years. I've been involved in social justice off and on since the 1980s, and this is the FIRST time that I've seen major changes happen. So I've hope too. I think NYC was going in the wrong direction and COVID has given it a massive reset button.
Edited 2020-08-25 02:35 (UTC)
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[personal profile] lirazel 2020-08-25 01:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I always enjoy Ezra Klein's show when I check it out, but I must have missed that one. Thank you for the quote. I'm going to listen to the rest of it, and I quite agree with them.
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[personal profile] lokifan 2020-09-10 01:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks, that's definitely interesting. And a good point; I'm thinking here of how Merkel, Obama, and even Cameron evolved on the equal marriage question.

[identity profile] ragnarok-08.livejournal.com 2020-08-24 07:10 pm (UTC)(link)
That really is quite an article!

Sonya Clark's art work is fascinating and compelling.
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[personal profile] sea_thoughts 2020-08-26 06:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for those excerpts, this sounds very interesting.