Yes, Philip Sandifer can call it an “endearingly gonzo set piece”, but it feels... clumsy? It's just silly. It's Doctor Who. It's taking the basic idea of the angels and extending it so far that it's beyond ridiculous. Yet it does make me laugh, and damn, if you can - why not? I could probably come up with some sort of meta explanation (dear god, that episode is so steeped in pure imagery & meta it's like drowning), but I'm not sure it needs it. :)
He's a Pond with a Time Head, and he's just giving up? And in the episodes after Let's Kill Hitler Amy and Rory are just okay with that? Well that moment ("don't you sometimes wish I did!”) comes just after his second defeat. He is acutely aware of how he's screwed everything up, and that's before River's dressing down. Of course then River also reveals who she is and he runs off, laughing, to find bb!Melody... Except he can't. And LKH shows us that her childhood/youth has been spent with her parents. He can't go back and fix it, without rewriting everyone's personal history... (Which he can't.) So they have no choice except to accept it. River clearly isn't all that bothered - or rather, her issues don't manifest until TWoRS.
And some of the things that don't feel too sloppy to ignore. And that's where it doesn't feel like I'm watching the same show that you and Promethia are watching, although I wish I were. Is it just that you're better at not worrying about the details that don't fit? Or am I missing something? Did you read my 'All the Layers' post? Because often something that doesn't work in a story sense still works when you look at the metaphors. (And I am fabulous at fanwanking the story part! *g*) So it all depends on where you're looking. Like looking at a 3D picture.
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It's just silly. It's Doctor Who. It's taking the basic idea of the angels and extending it so far that it's beyond ridiculous. Yet it does make me laugh, and damn, if you can - why not? I could probably come up with some sort of meta explanation (dear god, that episode is so steeped in pure imagery & meta it's like drowning), but I'm not sure it needs it. :)
He's a Pond with a Time Head, and he's just giving up? And in the episodes after Let's Kill Hitler Amy and Rory are just okay with that?
Well that moment ("don't you sometimes wish I did!”) comes just after his second defeat. He is acutely aware of how he's screwed everything up, and that's before River's dressing down. Of course then River also reveals who she is and he runs off, laughing, to find bb!Melody... Except he can't. And LKH shows us that her childhood/youth has been spent with her parents. He can't go back and fix it, without rewriting everyone's personal history... (Which he can't.) So they have no choice except to accept it. River clearly isn't all that bothered - or rather, her issues don't manifest until TWoRS.
So yes, there are issues with how the Ponds respond to this (it could have been handled a lot better), but I tried to detangle it in this post: Meta: The Ponds (This is the way women and men have behaved since the beginning...).
And some of the things that don't feel too sloppy to ignore. And that's where it doesn't feel like I'm watching the same show that you and Promethia are watching, although I wish I were. Is it just that you're better at not worrying about the details that don't fit? Or am I missing something?
Did you read my 'All the Layers' post? Because often something that doesn't work in a story sense still works when you look at the metaphors. (And I am fabulous at fanwanking the story part! *g*) So it all depends on where you're looking. Like looking at a 3D picture.