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Serendipity is a funny thing...

This whole Joss mess has come along exactly as I decided to finally delve back into the AtS 'verse and finish a WIP I abandoned years ago. (As it happens, it's the only fic I've ever properly planned out, so I found my extensive notes and actually know where the story is going!)

Now, before beginning to write I figured I should probably watch a few episodes, just to make sure I had their voices right in my head; so I watched A Hole in the World and Shells. And it's a fascinating exercise in doublethink (doubleview?).

Like, I love the 'verse. I love the characters. I love the story. I will always be grateful to Joss & co for creating this world.

But there is also the fact that (the very very special) Fred has SIX men standing around her bedside. All of them going to go out and try to SAVE her. (See subject line...)

As you know, the only other women (still standing) in the extended cast are Harmony (who is delightful, but mostly comic relief) and Eve, who is very powerful yet lost all agency the second she lost her boyfriend. ETA: Oh and there's Nina too. I like Nina. It's sad her role never extends beyond Being The Girlfriend.

The interesting thing is that the same week my girls decided to watch [the new movie version of] Les Mis.

And it was exactly the same thing:

- Men make things happen.

- Women have things happen to them.

This is why Buffy (and Wonder Woman, Rey, et al) are so special. They make things happen.

(Possibly more musings later, but this is a pretty well-trodden path, and I'm preaching to the choir...)


Also I'm realising this is probably a pretty awful way to try to get people to read my 'Spike & Angel & Illyria go on an epic quest to undo the power of W&H' story, as it's rather male-centric. AH WELL. It's not like LJ is teeming with people reading AtS fic anymore. Although I should probably point out that there's a good deal of Buffy & her Slayer army in it too...

For those who want to try (and the lovely handful which read the first few chapters back in 2013 when I started posting and might want to have another look), you can find the fic here (well, the first 7 chapters):

Divided Destiny

More chapters coming soon! :D (*crickets*)

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Date: 27 August 2017 02:55 pm (UTC)
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Just because it is "male-centric" doesn't mean there is anything wrong with it. Now, if you posted "I am only writing male centric stories because men are better' THEN that would be wrong. You just connected with a story you wanted to tell and told it.

It's sad that so many writers do have to make that conscious effort and then have to make the effort to write female characters that take action as much as men. :\

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Date: 27 August 2017 03:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] orangerful
Well, I was just referring to your story, since you made it sound like you were upset that it was male-centric. :) I am going to assume you don't bump off a lot of ladies! :)

I have many thoughts on the recent Whedon stuff but I can't quite form them into words yet...I was caught off guard when a friend asked me about it yesterday because I am THE Whedon fan...this is why I don't get tattoos.

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Date: 27 August 2017 07:15 pm (UTC)
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"That's it. Except when the wimmins keep dying, it makes you wonder... '

Well that doesn't seem to effect Supernaturals ratings. *g*

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Date: 28 August 2017 09:28 am (UTC)
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Well for me personally I've never seen the appeal of either of them, either visually or when it comes to their acting. In fact It's one of the greatest mysteries of the universe for me as to how this show as managed survive for so long. *g*

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